TR-8 Audio out of sync

I have been trying to use the USB audio stream from my TR-8, but can't seem to get it in sync.  It plays a 1/16 note behind.  I tried adjusting the Hardware Latency (I am using an External Instrument), but it does absolutely nothing.  I tried adjusting the buffer, but that did nothing as well.

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Tekfunkdub 1 year ago | 2 comments

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  • sowens81
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    Have the same issue, but with the TB-3.  I really wish that the midi clock sync in ableton was improved. NI Traktor midi clock sync is almost perfect with out doing any midi sync deley

     

    1 year ago | 0 comments
  • ssrmpc
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    There're are several ways to deal with the latency, depending on how you work.

    I decided to have the TR-8 being used to create the whole drum groove. I use the TR-8 as a "design time tool" and I therefore use an audio track that is monitoring the stereo channel from the TR-8. This track will get a positive delay dialed in via Ableton's "track delay" to compensate the hardware delay. In the groove creation phase it's not so important to be 100% in sync. A delay of 1/64 is tight enough.

    Once i have all and everything I need from the TR-8 I will record the 11 instruments via USB. The latency I'll get via USB will be manually trimmed.... that seems to be the fastest and most accurate way. 

    With the TB-3 my intention is different, since I want to use midi clips in ableton and not to program the TB-3 step by step. I therefore created a midi channel that has a External Instrument device. In order to have the midi latency compensated I use the Ableton "track delay" with a negative value. That will send my midi notes earlier in time and compensates the hardware latency as well. At the end the track will be bounced to audio and I'll also trimm the latency if necessary.

    I fully agree that I was changing my workflow a little in order to not get nuts because there's 3/2048 delay that's not compensated. As a matter of fact I believe that the delay I'll get is ok in order to not lose time in details.

     

     

     

     

    1 year ago | 1 comment
  • seanmccaff
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    Everybody has the same problem.

    I work around that and just make a hole groove freak for 5 minutes and pul it audio.

    Here's a link and check how you can use it and get the out of sync in sync

    Check around the 11 minutes he' shows how to work and record and explains the latency .

    Also I Use the TR-8 as audio card than you have less latency and put you're preferences midi >TR-8   sync on and remote TR-8 on .

    I Also use Acces Virus it's a big Pain sometimes but it just sounds so good.

    If you really want to use the Roland gear than go MIDI and record thru a mixer . ( Yeah I know we don't buy it because we all want to use usb midi but it always gives big latency issues ! Best way is the old school MIDI way and Mixing desk .

    Hope this will help ya fellow's good luck .

     

     

    1 year ago | 1 comment
  • ssrmpc
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    As a matter of fact I had to read the manual regarding latency & track routing again.

     

    In case you have an audio interface that allows to monitor the TR-8 input channels by directly route them to your speakers, you should do so. Please refer to your audio interface manual.

     

    Once you hear the TR-8 directly via your audio interface, let’s set up Ableton to have as little latency possible.

     

    In order to record midi from TR-8 in Ableton you’ll have to….. 

    A) create a midi track receiving midi data from the TR-8. 

    B) turn the track monitoring to be „off“. 

     

    This will record all midi information from the TR-8 in one midi clip. In my case the recorded midi latency was 1/1024 that I had to manually fix.

     

    If you want to record the TR-8 audio in order to further process the recorded clip with EQ, compressors etc. you have to…

    A) create an audio track listing to the TR-8 output. 

    B) turn the track monitoring to be „off“

     

    This will record the audio of the TR-8. In my case the recorded latency was 3/1024 that I had to manually fix.

     

    The monitoring option "off" will allow the track to receive input data... but it will not be sent out. As a matter of fact you can record audio/midi like this by not introducing any additional latency.

     

    Remember…. you audio interface routes the audio to your speakers and for your ears it's 100% accurate…. and as a matter of fact it doesn’t matter how much the recorded latency will be, since you’ll  fix (quantize) it manually anyway to receive best results.

     

    1 year ago | 0 comments
  • Kibosh
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    I'm working on a Windows PC, I don't know for MAC, but for Windows you can use Latency Monitor to detect if your PC is up to the task for streaming all that audio. It's free so try it: http://www.resplendence.com/latencymon

    For Windows 7 for example, disabling the "indexing feature" helps a lot. I also had to tweak the network drivers, for example turning off all power saving features.

    Latency monitor can detect which process it slowing things down, then Google is your friend for solving the issue...

    1 year ago | 0 comments
  • Guy Brush
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    If using the usb stream you have to disconnect your Audio connection from the TR 8 to your soundcard and only use the.....USB stream....Then you can play with the latency options in the options of ableton.

    1 year ago | 0 comments

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