sample placement when changing master tempo?

Im working on a movie soundtrack and i got the problem that when i put in single audio files in the arrangement view they are not in sync to the video any more when i change the master tempo.

i want to be flexible wth my songtempo after i put the sfx sounds in. pro tools for instace keeps the audio files in place and just changes the grid in the background.. is there an option to keep my sample placement where it is when i change the tempo?

 

warping is set to off for all clips

im working with ableton live 9.1

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elwood88 3 years ago | 0 comments

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  • Near Earth Object
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    I think that only works when warp is on.

    Load all the parts you want to use, warp them, and make them sync to the project tempo.

    When you save the project (or the warp settings of separate clips, in the clip settings), all the used sounds will be in sync with your project.

    With warp on, you can then change the project tempo, and everything will stay in sync.

    3 years ago | 0 comments
  • elwood88
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    warping is no solution for me cause my issue is only related to the starting point of the sample.. in live its not the grid thats moving its the clips that move when i change tempo.. thats what i think is pretty weird.i cant warp the video file cause i want it to playback as it is, but the video file will always change its length in relation to the little audio pieces on the timeline.. thats whats messing with my arrangement.

    i found a workaround in consolidating all tracks to the strartpoint of the video so all audio clips got the same startpoint. then i can change tempo and it keeps the sample where they were to sync with the video movements..

    3 years ago | 0 comments
  • robcolling
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    I have the same problem. I built a complex arrangement - tempo was set to 178bpm, although the arrangement was entirely independent of tempo. Now (for good reasons that I won't bore you with) I need to change the tempo to 179bpm. When I do, Live promptly moves all the start points of my clips, ruining the arrangement. Consolidating to the start point is a great workaround but won't work for me on this arrangement. I wish Ableton would sort this out. It's just crazy that we can't change the background tempo grid while leaving the arrangement locked. Other DAWs can do it.

    5 months ago | 0 comments
  • elwood88
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    i guess thats not gonna happen any time soon.. if you work with video or in sound effects you should definately switch to another software. ableton is nice to write music but it lacks so many little features that other daws offer when it comes to editing and layout. if you wanna go professional in audio theres no way around pro tools or similar softwares anyway. i think ableton is focusing on a different market on the industry and it may will be for the better...

    5 months ago | 0 comments
  • jb1788
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    same problem here. kinda of odd that it tempo changes don't affect the start point of the samples in arrangement view. I could see it being useful in much different situations, but for producing a track its useless and should have a feature to disable. 

     

    Use a different program is not a viable solution. The consolidation trick is a good one, thank you.

    5 months ago | 0 comments

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