Retina support

Does anyone know if Live 8 or 9 will have retina support?

 

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Rolland

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rollandjb 2 years ago | 0 comments

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  • projoosa
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    +1

    When will there be proper retina support added to Live ?

    2 years ago | 0 comments
  • bentmills
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    It's ridiculous. Sort it out Ableton. How can they have not noticed that it looks completely pants?

    It's the first thing that I thought as I loaded it onto my brand new retina mac... MAJOR LET-DOWN!!!

    2 years ago | 0 comments
  • fargo100
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    Taken from the Ableton forum - not my work, but yes this is true and works..

    Most people don't realize, Ableton Live 8 already technically has Retina support. It's just not activated. 

    This is possible thanks to the fact that Live's UI is rendered as vector elements, not as raster (pixel) elements. They hide this away in the preferences under the name of "Zoom"; and for anyone familiar with Mac development, Retina support is simply the the addition of @2x resolution image assets. If we "zoom" Live's UI to 200%, we have a Retina UI. The difficulty comes in telling Live to draw at 200% under native resolution, not upscaled resolution. 

    Here's a screenshot of Live running on a 15" Macbook Pro, fully Retina and fully working.

    http://cl.ly/image/1i372o1N353T


    In order to achieve this, I used an app called ResolutionTab, which can be found on the App Store, to switch the Retina display to Native resolution of 2880x1800. I then went to Preferences and set the Zoom to 200%. 

    Now, of course, the surrounding OS UI, everything but the main Live window is tiny; and we'd have to use System Preferences to double our cursor size and cursor speed. This is purely a proof-of-concept that anyone can follow along with to demonstrate that Retina support is possible in Live, we merely need to convince Ableton to implement this 200% zoom on Retina Macs.
     
    2 years ago | 3 comments
  • m.nash
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    Man, how has Ableton let this slip?

    Tons of the team must be running retina at this point.

    2 years ago | 0 comments
  • projoosa
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    6 months and still no reply from Ableton on this ?

    2 years ago | 0 comments
  • locomote
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    Ableton live 9.1... no retina support :'(

    1 year ago | 0 comments
  • maxgraham
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    FillClarke i don't know what you're talking about but most programs have updated to have "retina support" which a common term for updating anything visual to look perfect on the retina. It looks like absolute shit at the moment on a retina macbook pro. The apple save dialogue that live uses is clearly the old pre retina version and looks horrible so yes, "retina support" is a thing.

    2 years ago | 0 comments
  • verstaerker
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    and another update without retina-support :(

    1 year ago | 0 comments
  • verstaerker
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    of course it works on MBP Retina but it looks "terrible"

    2 years ago | 0 comments
  • ArmandoC
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    I don't understand why ableton is turning a blind eye to this. Company vision sucks.

    2 years ago | 0 comments
  • Mountain Jack
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    This is ridicules. A retained graphics vector rendered UI that defaults to the pixel doubling. This is reserved for older UIs that have no way to support high pixel density displays. This is outrageous and should be rather embarrassing for any decent software engineer.

    The really irritating part is that this can be worked around by a superuser/developer. This simply means that they are ignoring us.

    2 years ago | 0 comments
  • caseym
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    This is so annoying. Wish Ableton would fix this. Live 9 looks terrible on Macbook Pro with retina.

    2 years ago | 0 comments
  • Christian Witt
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    +1 hope ableton will add it soon

    2 years ago | 0 comments
  • NP-Tunes
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    it's been a while now and my eyes are still hurting..we pay a good amount of love and money for Ableton. please fix it.

    1 year ago | 0 comments
  • mclifton
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    Yeah its only going to get worse in the complaints department for Ableton. Lots of people are buying macs these days and Apple did say that all new Macbooks will be Retina only by end of year. This means lots of old and new users are going to see the problem we are experiencing. I hope they can solve it. Its not a game killer for me, i am still working and value stability over looks. So with that being said, it would be nice to see them get this worked out by next update. I know bugs need to be worked out but this looks embarrassing at the moment.

    2 years ago | 0 comments
  • sambolero
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    I'm also having a very poor visual experience with Live 8 on a new 15" MBP Retina display. Very pixelated text, icons, automation, waveforms etc. It prevents accurate editing and is a strain on the eyes to keep focus. The only work-around I've discovered so far, although it is not exactly a solution, is to scale up higher in the display prefs. Problem with that is it's almost too small to focus on, and at any rate the graphics are still noticeably pixelated. I'd be keen to know if a solution is being looked at and when this can be resolved. Anybody got any insight into this? Cheers

     

    2 years ago | 0 comments
  • HowlingEverett
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    Eh, I honestly don't mind. It looks pixellated on my display, sure, and I'll be happy to have a crisp UI back if/when they ever do include retina support. But unlike Photoshop (which I literally couldn't use without an external monitor until they released the retina update), Live is still perfectly usable (and continues to sound and work great).

    By the way, the reason it's not a simple 'include retina assets' is probably due to the aforementioned 'everything is actually rendered as a vector'. For native Mac apps, going retina is literally just flipping the text-rendering switch and then including @2x versions of all of your graphical assets. A pain if you have a lot of icons, but not exactly impossible.

    Live doesn't use native windowing libraries, though - their UI engine is entirely their own, and cross-platform. I'm sure there's some engineering problems that need to be solved to decide when and where to scale the vector assets - which means they need to throw engineering money at it, which means it gets prioritised based on how much money it's worth.

    My money's on retina support in 2015 when Apple's non-retina notebooks are all obsolete and retina displays are common on Windows notebooks.

    2 years ago | 0 comments
  • QuantumFizz
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    Please add this, Ableton... Live looks pretty terrible on my 13" rMBP.

    1 year ago | 0 comments
  • Dancho
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    My answer is ableton team seems are lazy a bit this time for the retina support ,what a shame and yes it is horrible looking all broken fonts !

    1 year ago | 0 comments
  • Stromkraft
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    We need multiple resolution support in Live ASAP. It's unacceptable to say you support a hardware platform like Macs and not support common standard resolutions. 

    1 year ago | 0 comments
  • Ilmostro
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    Retina support is in the 9.1.6 beta!
     
     
    "9.1.6b1 Release Notes
     
    Improvements and feature changes:
     
    Improved graphics for Retina displays. Note that this requires a Mac with OS X 10.7.4 “Lion” or higher.
    Added native full screen support for users of Mac OS X 10.9 Mavericks or higher. The keyboard shortcut for toggling full-screen mode has been changed accordingly to CTRL+CMD+F, which is the operating system’s default. Users with older OS X versions and Windows users are not affected by this change."
     
     
    Please be aware that beta shouldn't be used in a production environment - they may well have bugs still.
     
     
     
     
    10 months ago | 0 comments
  • puresports
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    Still nothing? This is a bad joke!

    1 year ago | 1 comment
  • bitshiftcop
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    Apple just announced their 5K iMac. Retina graphics are more needed than ever! ;)

    9 months ago | 1 comment
  • io8
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    Fill That: It looks and visually works crap! 1990 640x800 looks. Hurts my eyes. How can you say there isn't any visible quality loss- ignorant fuzzy view. 

    7 months ago | 2 comments
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    1 year ago | 0 comments
  • sergnicolas
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    OK, I already tried on two mack book pro (2011 & 2014) with retina, the first is using Lion and the second Maverick. I installed the exactly same version even on 8 & 9 and I realized that the problem is the compatibility with maverick, cause on Lion is working perfect. I don't know if the problem is with the Ableton Company or with Apple. 

     

    11 months ago | 1 comment
  • [stm] Ableton staff
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    Hi guys,

    Let's try to keep Answers as a platform for questions and answers - your feature wishes are highly welcome, but here's not the perfect place to submit them. It's a better idea to visit the Feature Wishlist forum to that end: https://forum.ableton.com/viewforum.php?f=3. You're also welcome to contact us directly with any feedback. 

    2 years ago | 0 comments
  • FillClarke
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    There's no such thing required as "retina support" for ableton as it's not an IOS program, nor does it contain any video or images that need to be upscaled.

    The program can scale to fit you screen- and will work just fine on a retina display macbook.

    Font and windows wil be scaled and streched without visible quality loss.

    2 years ago | 11 comments

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