Play a clip in session view from a point other than the beginning in sync

The question sounds complicated, so let me explain:

Imagine I have an eight bar bass line in its own track with one note per bar. This plays looped in the session view. I create another track to write a melody over top. I fiddle around and decide on four bars of the melody, which I record into a clip in a second track. Now it's time to complete the last four bars in the second track. I play around on Push to generate some note ideas, but I want to hear them played in sync with the bass line. I go to the clip location I want to start from and hit spacebar. The clip starts from the beginning... but now I have to wait four bars before the part I want even sounds. I hit Ctrl-Space. Same thing. I hover on the clip under the time scale until the mouse becomes a little speaker and click. The current clip starts playing from the correct spot, but any other clips just start from the beginning.

The only way I deal with this is to drag clips into the arrangement view so that I can start them from anywhere, but I don't see why this is necessary. Can't I start a clip from a random spot and have all of the other clips play in their correct corresponding spot?!

There's a similar question here:
https://www.ableton.com/answers/clip-playback-in-session-view-only-playing-from-beginning-of-clip

Unfortunately, in that one, the solution appears to be to just turn on the permanent scrub areas and start the clip where you'd like. The problem is, when the clip starts playing it doesn't adjust other clips in the scene accordingly so they're no longer in sync.

Would love some info on this!

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  • nhradio
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    You might try playing around with Legato launch mode. I am pretty sure if you have multiple clips (using Legato mode) on the same track that when you launch them they can start at a position other than the beginning. Not sure if this would work on different tracks but maybe.

    1 year ago | 0 comments
  • daciangrada00
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    I have this problem, too. I would like to know if there's a solution to this. 

    9 months ago | 0 comments
  • chicagorose
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    It would be great if I didn't have to go into each instrument's track and move the arrow to the new start point. There seems to be no way to easily link the separate tracks together so that they can all start at the same place in another part of the clip, and I have no use for the session view at this point. It's actually easier to use the arrangement view instead.

    My guess the session view is designed for more shorter clips. Mine is 67 measures. All of the tutorials I've seen so far on the session page are addressing very short lengths of music.

    4 months ago | 0 comments
  • chicagorose
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    All of the tutorials I've seen so far on the session page are addressing very short lengths of music. My guess is that the session view is designed for shorter clips. My clip is 67 measures. I want to go into various parts of the clip and edit each instrument, while hearing all of them at once. 

    It would be great if I didn't have to go into each instrument's track and move the arrow to the new start point. There seems to be no setting to easily link the separate tracks together so that they can all start at the same place in another part of the clip, except for going into each individual track.  Because of this, I have no use for the session view at this point. Even with only five tracks, it's a complete time consumer. It's actually easier and faster to use the arrangement view instead. 

    If someone out there finds an easy way to link the tracks in the session view so that we can start the clip at any point in the clip and have all the tracks playing at the same place, I'd love to know! 

    Thanks.

    4 months ago | 0 comments
  • Salokin
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    I’m not sure I completely understand the problem but here are some reminders. I’ll assume you’re in Session view: 

    • “I have to wait four bars before the part I want even sounds” > check your GLOBAL QUANTIZE SETTINGS in the Control Bar, this determines how long it will take for the clip to launch once you click it so that it plays in sync with the other. If you have to wait 4 bars, that’s probably because you have the global setting set to 4 bars
    • the scenes launch all clips in that scene. If you want to trigger individual clips without affecting the others, just hit the play buttons on the individual clips
    • as mentioned above, you can set the begging point of a clip by dragging the flag under the loop brace in the clip so that it starts from that point 

     

    I hope this helps

    4 months ago | 0 comments
  • captain achab
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    I have this problem too (live 8) ; is there a solution in version 9?

    2 months ago | 0 comments
  • rust404
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    In the clip view there is a brace on the wave with two play arrows, just drag the dark arrow, which is the 'play from' marker to the point in the clip you want it to start. it'll play from that point and will loop as normal after that.

    1 year ago | 1 comment

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