New user resourse advice?

Hello everyone I am a total new user to computerized music and my only real expirience with music on a computer is downloading it lol. I am not illiterate to music I have a very good ear and I play guitar.What my goal  with Ableton is that I would like to be able to create my own house and dub step music and eventually move on to DJing and preforming live. I bought Ableton live 8 from guitar center and I plan on getting massive when I get more proficient at Ableton. I am looking to see if anyone has any advice on where I should begin outside of the tutorials which I will obviously go through. I have the MacproVideo tutorials for one month. I dont have the suite though that has all the live packs in it and I was wondering do I really need to pay the extra 300 for those live packs or is there a cheaper way of going about getting those instruments? Really I would just love any advice I can get from anyone who does what I am looking to do an Ableton and for people that are proficient at ableton now and were in my shoes not so long ago I would like to know what you did to get better at this program. I am even open to going to school it just has to make sense for what I am looking to do. I look forward to speaking with my fellow musicans soon.

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djnewtron 1 year ago | 0 comments

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  • Eppe
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    Hi!

    First of all: have as much fun as you can while making music! If you enjoy what you're doing you're gonna do it more and get better at it.

    There's many many options in Live which can be overwhelming at first but there's also many many tutorials on the web (I especially recommend the Dubspot tutorials for what you want to do, just search for 'dubspot tutorial ableton' on Youtube, they're really helpful and clear), just do lots of them and you'll automatically find out more and more about the program and at the same time generate output. Also, check the Ableton forum for 'the little list of tips and tricks' I think it's called. Oh and start with the built-in lessons if you haven't done so already to learn the basics :)

    I don't know exactly whats in what version of Ableton (I have Suite but I don't really use any of the samples that come with it, nor do I use a lot of Live packs), but I'm guessing Operator, Sampler, Drum Rack etc are in all versions. Download some free drum hit samples (theres lots of them if you google a bit), throw them into drum rack and make your own beats with those, its gonna sound a lot more unique than using the samples that come with Ableton anyway and you'll have more sounds to choose from. You can actually make really fat sounds with Operator and some of the other synths that come with Live (Massive is definitely really nice too and gives you more options) if you know how to use it and use some effects on it (the effects that come with Live are really useful, you don't necesserily need a lot of vst plugins), it may be a good idea to sit down and really get to know and experiment with one specific instrument such as Operator once in a while. Once you know how a certain instrument works you'll be able to get the sounds you want much faster and once you have a sound that you like your song is already halfway done figuratively speaking :)

    Don't be afraid to experiment and do some really weird stuff, you don't always have to work towards a song or something that's nice to listen to for others, making some really extreme sounds and doing things of which you don't know what the outcome will be can open your eyes/ears to all the possibilities there are with sound, you can always bring it back to something that's less extreme and more useful but you probably wouldn't have gotten that sound if you hadn't tried something extreme first ;) Try every instrument and effect in Live and just screw around with it (even if maybe you don't know what youre doing at first), it's fun and will give you ideas on what you can do with them. At the same time, keep learning about how everything actually works so you strike a balance between experimenting and actually knowing what you're doing more and more, if that makes sense :) I'd say the most important basic stuff to learn about is EQing, reverb, delay, using the stereo spectrum and (arguably) compression.

    And last of all, have fun :P

    Hope this helps!

    1 year ago | 0 comments
  • spicer
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    Hiya Djnewtron,

    Like the name when you get to your  DJ'ing thing going.

    The long and short of answering your question is...YES! (Bite the bullet) and get the full suite. I just did it...it hurts in the wallet but Now I have No excuses Not to learn anything. 

    Because as you noticed as well as I have, when you follow online tuts it will invariably show you/us --> "ok, now open Operator."

    And here's the thing IMO, the frustration of Not being able to follow someone definitely stunts your learning enthusiasm and energy level at that moment. I'm sure you can relate to this?

    And...wait on Massive till this coming Holiday season. You can get it more than likely for 50% off like I did this past Christmas season. But trying to learn both is a Full-Time commitment. So my advice/suggestion? Is learn Live 1st...then expand. 

    Much luck and success to you...

     

    1 year ago | 0 comments
  • Funk N. Furter
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    I have replied to this on the forum

     

    Fran  MacAbleton.com

    1 year ago | 0 comments

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