Multi-velocity Samples and Creating Your Own Drum Rack Instrument

Ok, not sure how to even ask about this. I'm new to the world of self-created samples, but here we go. 

I was in the studio last week and the engineer and I recorded samples of the drum kit we used for tracking. We recorded 8 different velocities for each drum (Kick, Snare, and Toms). I have all of these samples and I want to create a kit in ableton incorporating all of the sampled velocities for expressive playing on my controller. Obviously I can pull up a new drum rack and place one of the eight samples of each piece and create a kit. But my question is this: How do I use all 8 velocities we sampled on one drum rack pad? Is there, for instance, a way to have all 8 Snare samples loaded into a pad so I when I'm playing on my controller and use expressive velocities that it will incorporate all 8 snare samples into the one snare pad. Hopefully I'm making sense here and someone can help me. I tried searching for it, but haven't found anything on it yet.




unitshift 3 years ago | 0 comments

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  • cwood@theoaks
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    Please, someone else help with this. I've been trying to find a way to do this as well. Sampler allows you to select the velocity triggers by right clicking the samples within Velocity Zone Editor, but the trouble is that the Sampler instrument does not play the entire duration of the sample, even when Loop Mode is set to 'Trigger'. I have many drum sounds with long room or reverb tails, that I cannot use in this way because Sampler chops the samples off - extremely frustrating.

    Can someone from Ableton please explain a way to accomplish this properly?

    1 year ago | 1 comment
  • cdfleming
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    Yes! You can do this (Sorry for the late response.)

    Open up a drum rack that you will use to trigger your samples. In the particular box that you would like your, say, kick drum to be, drop an INSTRUMENT RACK (not the kick sample.) Make sure the "Show/Hide Chain List" button is turned on. Now drop your 8 kick velocities into that instrument rack. They should all stack vertically so you can see each one. This will be the basis for your multi-velocity kick drum triggering...

    The next step is to set the velocities at which each sample will be triggered. When your "Show/Hide Chain List" button is on, you will be able to see 4 buttons above your samples: "Key" "Vel" "Chain" "Hide"

    Click on "Vel" so that it is turned on. You should see long horizontal red bars and a "ruler" of sorts above it that goes from 1-127. You can adjust this red bar to make it shorter or longer, and place it anywhere within this scale. The 1-127 represents the midi velocity signal (softer hits are lower, harder hits are higher numbers.) I would adjust your first sample to be between 10-25, your second sample between 26-30, third between 31-45, etc. until your last sample is up to 127. 

    Here's what happens. When you trigger a midi velocity from your midi pad/controller that is producing a midi velocity signal of, say 67, every sample in the instrument rack that has the red bar on or passing over the 67 mark will be triggered. 

    You can finick with this a lot. For example, my Roland SPD-SX starts triggering at around 50 midi velocity, not 10. So I would figure out how long of a velocity continuum each sample should have by dividing 72/8 (127-50 to get our base of 72, and 8 representing the samples.)

    If you are irritated by the retriggering of a sample causing the first sample to "stop" rather than continue playing over the new samples, you can double click each sample in your instrument rack, click the "Classic" tab on the sample screen, and navigate to the "Retrigger" section (marked by an "R" button) above the LFO options and press the button. This will allow samples to continue playing even when new ones are triggered.

    4 months ago | 1 comment

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