Mac OS X Lion

Is Ableton Live 8 currently being tested to run on Mac OS X Lion? When can we expect the first compatible version?

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dlspillz 2 years ago | 5 comments

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  • Dennis DeSantis Ableton staff
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    (last updated 26 August, 2011)

    As of version 8.2.5, Ableton Live is officially compatible with OS X Lion. Live 8.2.5 is available as a free downloadable update to all owners of Live Lite 8, Live Intro and Suite 8. It is available at:

    http://www.ableton.com/latest-versions

    Lion compatibility for versions of Live prior to Live 8 is under consideration but is not currently planned.


    Note for Max for Live users
    Please update to Max 5.1.9 (or newer) to ensure Max for Live compatibility with OS X Lion:

    http://cycling74.com/downloads/



    Third-Party Hardware and Plug-ins
    Please note that many audio/MIDI devices and third-party plug-ins are not yet compatible with Lion. Please check with the manufacturers of any third-party products to confirm Lion compatibility before upgrading.


    OS X Changes
    - Scroll bar behavior has changed in Lion, which may cause confusion if you're using a conventional mouse. Please see this article for more information: http://www.redmondpie.com/how-to-restore-snow-leopard-like-scroll-bar-behavior-in-os-x-lion/

    - In Lion, Apple has hidden the /Users/Library folder, which contains Live's user preferences and library. This should not affect most users, but in certain cases you may need to access these folders directly.

    To make /Users/Library visible, hold down the "Option/Alt" key, and choose "Go to Library" in the Go menu of the Finder.


    If you are currently using Lion and find any problems with Live 8.2.5 (or newer), please let our technical support team know:
    http://www.ableton.com/support/contact_technical_support

    2 years ago | 11 comments
  • rchrdnsh
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    Is this coming in a day? Week? Month?

    2 years ago | 8 comments
  • brammers
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    You can hardly blame Apple for this. It would be extremely difficult to release new versions of an OS without needing to make any changes to applications. This is exactly the reason that Apple release developer versions of new operating systems such a long time in advance of the release; this is when Software companies are supposed to test their software and make any necessary changes. How do you think all of those other apps already have Lion compatible versions? Because they don't wait until release day to test their apps.

    2 years ago | 1 comment
  • [mid] Ableton staff
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    The Current Beta version of Live is 8.2.5b1 introduces compatibility with OS X 10.7 Lion.

    You can download it here:

    http://forum.ableton.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=167743

    2 years ago | 1 comment
  • Pokeymoke
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    I turned off multiprocessor support and that solved my current problems. It seems like a temporary fix.

    2 years ago | 8 comments
  • kenjigarland
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    Dennis, thank you SO much for this post. Brazen fool that I am, I upgraded to Lion the day it was released, and nearly everything has worked just fine for me since then, except today when I first plugged in my MIDI interface.

    Three tries, three crashes, five minutes or so of swearing and kicking myself, and then I find this -- all I need to do is disable one preference and everything is back to normal. I haven't noticed a performance hit yet, either, but I guess we'll see.

    Thanks to the Ableton staff for being aware of this issue, for working to fix it, and for providing a painless workaround in the meantime.

    2 years ago | 0 comments
  • Mitch707
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    I don't know if anyone has talked about a work around. But, I believe I found one. That is if your just using live with an APC 40.
    That is to turn off the output sync and the ext. Midi clock to none in the prefs.
    I was crashing everytime I would hit an audio clip. But, now with those turned off. I have not crashed.

    2 years ago | 3 comments
  • Pasha
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    What I do not get it's the need to upgrade. I have tested on a Sandbox. No joy. And I do not like Lion at the point that I will not rush into the upgrade it will live on the Sandbox for many weeks.

    Download Superduper, make a free boot capable clone via USB external disk and try. Upgrade when you are 100% sure. In the meantime enjoy your Snow Leopard.

    2 years ago | 0 comments
  • [mlp] Ableton staff
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    Keep an eye on this page for updates on Live compatibility in Lion: 

    http://www.ableton.com/news/osx-10-7-lion-compatibility-live-update-coming-soon

    2 years ago | 1 comment
  • mod-r
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    i'm currently testing live, and all is good with basic midi keyboard's that don't supply midi out, all ik multimedia, native instruments and various other plugins work fine. major problems come not from live it's self but third party hardware due to lack of os x lion drivers, i.e alesis master control is no longer recognised as audio device but still recognised  as control surface but as soon as it's used live crashes due to no driver, same goes for any other alesis audio device. other midi keyboards that supply midi out such as korg micro Kontrol work properly until you supply midi out information to another keyboard (korg triton) then it will crash but this would most likely be because of incorrect driver. i strongly suggest not upgrading until you have obtained os x lion drivers for the hardware that you use and ableton have released their os x lion update..

     
    2 years ago | 0 comments
  • djnunez
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    I really hope that Ableton won't forget about Ableton 7 Users! I'm very happy with 7 version and i don't have the need to update to 8.

    2 years ago | 6 comments
  • RandomGeeza
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    As per the above, please don't forget us Ableton7 users. Without it, I am buggered when it comes to work.

    2 years ago | 3 comments
  • risome1
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    Old software rule "never use version 1 of anything"All will be solved shortly.

    2 years ago | 0 comments
  • neuronaut
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    Early adoption has it's downside folks... at least give the Ableton team to the official release date to make the changes.

    It's a shame that Lion requires updates! I wonder how many other apps will need updates.

    IMO, this is something Apple should take most of the responsibility for. Is it possible Apple will release a new build that will fix these issues? I know all the Apple Dev folks have been told they have the official public build, but they could really fudge things up if they can't create a seamless transition for the massive user base.

    I think I'm going to wait about 3 months after the official release date to even bother.

    As a Mac user since '85(!), I would suggest the same for anyone who just wants to write music and is sick of maintaining a working environment!

    peace.

    2 years ago | 1 comment
  • Bainesy
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    I must say this - hopefully will help some users for now:

    Using 8.2.2 w/OSX Lion,
    Midi gear includes Novation launchpad and ZeRO SLmkII - also using auto map and IAC,
    I have midi input, output AND sync turned on.

    First up - crash, crash and more crash - I came here and read that "Switching multiple CPU mode off" (preferences>CPU> Turn off multi-core support)

    And now I'm able to do pretty much everything :-) My favourite plugins, Kore player, Bass Station etc all seem to be working fine - It's a definite workaround for me! Thanks so much PokeyMoke!

    2 years ago | 1 comment
  • cjr
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    Perhaps you'll also fix the 'out of memory' issue with 64 bit support.

    2 years ago | 0 comments
  • die möwe
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    First of all, thanks for releasing a compatible version.. but to be honest, when i was told to wait for the lion update, i kinda expected to see Versions and Full Screen features included..

    I don't know if you don't like os x that much to make use of its advantages in respect to Microsoft but sure thing these features would be nice to have!

    2 years ago | 0 comments
  • uk1simon
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    Good news for anyone using Novation Launchpad / SL II keyboard as your only midi devises. Works fine with Lion and current Ableton version.

     

     

    2 years ago | 2 comments
  • housebrand
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    Liebe Ableton Leute! Wenn ihr ein Fix für Lion rausbringt wollt ihr euch dann nich ma überlegen multitouch Gesten mit einzuführen! Prädestiniert wäre ein zoom in / zoom out Effekt. Ich wäre euch zutiefst dankbar!

     

    Liebe Grüße

    Christian!

    2 years ago | 1 comment
  • abluesky
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    I am still running Live 7, last latest release.  I never send MIDI out, or in, via IAC or otherwise.

    Are there any *known* issues to running Lion and Live 7 other than the MIDI out issue?

     

    Thanks.

    2 years ago | 0 comments
  • enomusic
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    I installed the Current Beta version of Live is 8.2.5b1 (introduces compatibility with OS X 10.7 Lion) and so far is working like a charm... You can download it here:

    http://forum.ableton.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=167743

    2 years ago | 0 comments
  • Tonethieve
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    Finally : )   -----Thank you,Abletonians !

    2 years ago | 0 comments
  • far_high
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    I'm running Mac OS X Lion 10.7 (11A511) that's the release version. And there is one serious bug. If i send midi out to my midi interface ableton freezes/crashes, if i put sync on it also crashes, so any outgoing midi data crashes ableton.

    This bug also exists with the lates ableton beta (Live 8.2.4b3)

    My usb to midi interface is based on a Ploytec GM5 chip, wich is supported without additional drivers in osx and is very fast.

    2 years ago | 2 comments
  • NovoX
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    Is there already an estimated release date for the patch - I really don't want to switch back to OS 10.6...

    2 years ago | 0 comments
  • cids
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    Have some patience, it's always wise to make sure that all your applications are certified for a new OS release before upgrading...

    2 years ago | 0 comments
  • Pokeymoke
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    So... I should have listened to the advice re: upgrading to Lion and Ableton Live. Live crashes almost instantly upon opening. My question is: do I wait for the update from Ableton or re-install Snow Leopard? 

    2 years ago | 4 comments
  • collaborator
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    I am surprised ; that Ableton did not fix the compatibility issues prior to release of Lion if you think most of Ableton users running live in Mac.
     

    Ableton please let us know in detail what is the current status of fix development

    2 years ago | 1 comment
  • Tellumm
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    Is this coming in a day? Week? Month?

    How many time to you need to fix this problem of Midi...

    We paid the price to use your software, and Apple have done a lot of Beta before launch Lion OS.

     

     

     

    2 years ago | 0 comments
  • verstaerker
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    i don't wan to rush anyone - but can we have some information what's going on with development of the Lion-update?

    Any rough estimation when the version will be available ? A week , a month, several month ?

     

    thx and best regards

    2 years ago | 0 comments
  • hmj
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    First of all, if you upgraded to Lion without checking to see if Ableton was compatible it's YOUR fault. 

    It doesn't matter if Apple upgrades from 10.6 to 10.7, you should never upgrade without checking for compatibility issues. If you're not aware of that then you haven't been around long enough or aren't a professional so I don't blame some of you for your ridiculous comments. 

    If you made the mistake switch back or be patient, those are your options for not being smart enough to check. Stop blaming Ableton for your mistake. 

    2 years ago | 0 comments
  • cardinal
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    was ist denn eigendlich mit dem neuem update?ich will lion drauflassen.habt ihr mal ein datum oder ein etwa?danke,andiii

    2 years ago | 0 comments
  • D_Pasch
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    I'm trying to use the program, but it seems some stuff didnt install correctly on my Mac OS X Lion or something because when i go to certain sounds they wont play out and i dont even know how to get the Akai USB MPD26 to record the beats.

    2 years ago | 0 comments
  • bathyscaaf
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    So far I've had no issues running on Lion (2009 MPB), though I'm not using midi sync on that particular machine.  I'm also running Max/MSP/Jitter 6 on Lion with no issues.

    I'm running Snow Leopard on another machine with all my midi gear, partially because I was initially burned by Snow Leopard and was afraid of updating both my machines to Lion -- there was an issue I thought was with Live 8, but was fixed by an Apple update -- something about some firewire audio cards not working.  Of course Apple did not own up to this until the fix was ready (on a tiny bullet point at the bottom of a list of bug fixes) 2 months later.

    I'll  try to see if I can dupe some of these issues on my Lion machine...

    1 year ago | 0 comments
  • yuritomanek
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    I've been running Live 8.2.2 on OSX Lion for a few weeks now without any major issues. I've had a few moments where the system appeared to be a little unresponsive but that could have been an unrelated issue.

    2 years ago | 0 comments
  • NovoX
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    Same for me... Ableton crashes with release version of Lion as soon as I enable midi out / sync. Everything else worked quite fine so far.

    2 years ago | 0 comments
  • tukisijunga
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    Same issues- crash/lockup when sending MIDI out via a MOTU microlite. (8.2.4 b3)

    2 years ago | 1 comment
  • AlexHamza
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    Errr, I gotta go in and buy a new mac pro tomorrow cuz the old comp cant handle the amount of processing... Am I gonna need to install snow leopard on it or should I just disable the multi core processing (which is a primary strength of the mac pro) until the bugs are fixed up?

    2 years ago | 0 comments
  • Piplodocus
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    I've got Lion too. Not that surprised it broke Live; a lot of other stuff like DP and older versions of Logic don't work either. I figured it might be a silly idea (since it's only been out a few days), but figured it'd be worth the risk as I have SL and Live on a 2nd partition in case I turn up to a gig and it doesn't boot my main partition for any surprise reason.

    Can't wait for the update though as it's a PITA to reboot for Live all the time. Especially if it supports the fullscreen in the native Lion way...  :)

    2 years ago | 0 comments
  • AC Means
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    i didn't even get the choice, my supercomputer came with no disc, lion preinstalled, and as a result , i find my $5000 laptop absolutely fucking thousands of hours of parametric mapping and calibration for motion capturing and monome interfacing... seriously this is a joke, oh yea ... max runtime doesn't work anymore so i guess i have to buy MAX/MSP too. GOOD JOB ! for people who dedicate their lives to these sorts of issues, both Mac and Live, this is an absolute embarrasement and a disconcerting blemish on your reputations... how much money do I have to give you before my "upgrades" don't destroy my career. mother of god fix this shit i lose audio after about 15 minutes then switch to internal and it comes back... not exactly what I was looking for in my live sets.   

    1 year ago | 0 comments
  • Glitchman
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    This should get done before time runs out on the new MBP users whom have a time limit on free Lion upgrades.

    I am surprised about there not being any emails about this.

    2 years ago | 2 comments
  • Tellumm
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    I found a solution about the issue that causes Live to freeze when sending MIDI out, either to external hardware or internally via the IAC bus.

    Go to CPU, and disable "Multiprocessor" !

    All works now perfectly !

    To difficult for Ableton tech to give this solution found of the official forum ?

    2 years ago | 0 comments
  • verstaerker
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    when can we expect a release-version? the actual beta, works basically... but crashes quite often, after testing it with a real project

    2 years ago | 0 comments
  • Pasha
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    Thanks,

    I'll test Lion on a Sandbox before doing the upgrade, then I'll let you know. It should be here in a couple of days form the appstore...

     

    2 years ago | 0 comments
  • fraxyl
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    Are there other updates or is it just to fix Lion compatibility?

    2 years ago | 0 comments
  • quirksmode
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    Please please please hurry up with this :-(

    2 years ago | 0 comments
  • enomusic
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    Hey guys, since you guys are working on a OS X Lion compatibility version of LIVE it would be nice for you guys to implement 64 bit native support.. I think its time.

    2 years ago | 0 comments
  • enomusic
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    PLEASE MAKE IT 64bit 

    2 years ago | 0 comments
  • Torsten
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    Is there anybody out there???

    2 years ago | 0 comments
  • Torsten
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    Why does this take that long? First I thought it was a question of one or two hours to (hot)fix this. Then I hoped for one or two days. Later it became one week, two weeks... Is it about months we are talking about? I thought Apple sent developer bundles months (at least 5!) before the release of Lion... I am very disappointed... :-(

    2 years ago | 0 comments
  • djcane
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    When comes now the update for Lion? How many Days?

    2 years ago | 0 comments
  • michael_oria
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    Patience, my friends.

    2 years ago | 2 comments
  • Tonyuk
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    Its unacceptable to to warn and inform the user community of this outage and - I have Ableton 7 - if this is not going to work on lion I suggest you offer Ableton 7 users a free upgrade to 8 as an apology for letting us all down - I paid for this and expect it to work - Ms Office 2000 still works!

    Please remember you fans have other choices of vendor

    2 years ago | 1 comment
  • Tellumm
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    "Last Updated: 13 July, 2011"

    We are the 27...

    2 years ago | 0 comments
  • nickoftime
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    fix-it fix-it fix-it fix-it fix-it fix-it fix-it fix-it fix-it fix-it fix-it fix-it fix-it fix-it fix-it fix-it fix-it

     

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  • cowspeutum
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    seriously p'd off - upgrade my OS to Lion and Ableton breaks WTF!!!! Check the website (not that I should have to - Ableton have been aware of Lion release for months) and told do not upgrade to Lion - taking the piss guys - please get is sorted - I paid big bucks for this software and sorry but downgrading my OS again is NOT an option!

    2 years ago | 2 comments

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