How to get Live 9 browser to show Alias Folders on OSX?

Hi, how do I get Live 9 Browser to show Alias Folders inside the Disk Browser?

This has been my ideal method of preparing for sets (i.e., this live gig-folder contains Alias-Folder links to these folders which have these parts that i want to play during the set).

 

I was absolutely shocked to see that the new and improved Live Browser does not allow for Alias Folders

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  • [daw]
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    Hi there, 

    Aliases are currently not shown in the Live 9 browser, which is a result of the browser rework for Live 9. 

    I collect your feedback though and I will pass it on internally again, as this is a topic we are actively discussing in house. 

    Nothing is set in stone, but for now I hope this does not cause too much inconvenience for your work with Live. 

    Best, 

    David

    2 years ago | 2 comments
  • Scherer
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    +1 Would love to see Alias files 

    2 years ago | 0 comments
  • vanKloot
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    ARRRRRRRGH!!!!!  I can't BELIEVE anyone in 2015 would design an application with file management that can't recognize aliases or at LEAST symlinks!!!

    I have my entire audio library organized by publisher, and then I have folders filled with Aliases organized by genre or style so I can find whatever I'm looking for without having to remember who created it - but still have that information when I need it.  Now I discover that Live's browser won't show me ANYTHING in these alias-filled folders!!!  *HEADBANG*

    This is horrible Ableton.  Seriously, how did this get released like this?  Who said "Users won't care, nobody uses aliases in the real world anyway..." and let it ship??

    This needs to be fixed urgently, like for 9.2.  Seriously, this has just put a massive crimp in my workflow.  I've only been using Live for a couple months so I hadn't noticed this sooner.

    2 years ago | 1 comment
  • R.S.
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    Any solution for this?  Entire sample library is organized in Alias folders, can't access any of it in Live browser...

    2 years ago | 0 comments
  • todaysdate
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    +1

    I keep my sample folders organized so I know which sample came from which sample library, but then draw aliases so I can simply access all of my favorite "Perc Loops" from my different sample libraries in 1 directory.

     

    Any solutions???

    2 years ago | 0 comments
  • haloidesign
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    +1 it's really important for user to keep their Home Studio System organized like they want. Specialy if they used OS Standard like Symlink and Alias. In my case i have bash scripts to deploy all my collection of .aupreset, samples, etc... via symlink into a freshly installed system. For exemple : /Library/Audio/Presets/MyAudiounitPreset/FromMyDataHarddrive. This work very well for other software, you should provide this functionnality very quickly :). I came from Logic and for now i've no other solution to upgrade my internal hardrive and change script to use cp command instead of ln -s.

    ... and you perfectly know that this solution is not trivial in case of reinstall i've to dump from my harddrive to another harddrive, reinstall, copy again.... ARF !!! it's not just like run a bash script

    2 years ago | 0 comments
  • Squareeyes
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    Hello?

    I can't see how this is not resolved by now?

    Really??

     

    2 years ago | 0 comments
  • fidelitarean
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    It shows Alias folders for me. Can't drag them to the sidebar but it will add them if I use the "Add Folder" button

    4 years ago | 1 comment
  • mattb
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    sample problem here. 

    4 years ago | 0 comments
  • Bayley
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    +1.

    Even symbolic links don't work either, which leads me to believe this was a deliberate decision. If that is the case, it's was a terrible one.

    2 years ago | 0 comments
  • Maxim Kashtanov
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    Please add view alias, 

    This is an important thing for comfortable work with audio material and records.

    2 years ago | 0 comments
  • Maxim Kashtanov
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    It is impossible for so many years, you do not eliminate the bug!

    2 years ago | 0 comments
  • abodal
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    Agreed +1 to what everyone has said.

    I can't see ANY reason for getting rid of this once supported feature.

    Having a TB of samples on my native HD (and thereby in my User Library) is impossible, so ideally I would use/have used in the past symlinks and aliases 

    1 year ago | 0 comments
  • abneypark
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    I agree. In fact, we've been keeping an older version of ablation on our stage laptop ever since. 

    It basically keeps us from being able to use Ableton Live...live. Its really stupid. Its as if you insist on our keyboard player wandering through a folder structure for each song...live on stage in front of thousands of people!

    Amateur hour, kids. 

    1 year ago | 0 comments
  • the angus
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    +1 i want this feature!!!

    7 months ago | 0 comments
  • gcsmusic
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    I stumbled upon this thread and I cannot believe this is an unimplemented feature. I also cannot believe this has been asked for for 3 years without a change being made.

    Symbolic links & Aliases are integral parts of the macOS filesystem. Not supporting those is not just crippling, it's disgraceful. If you're going to support an OS, please support the OS. This is not an advanced feature, it's right there accessible in the Finder with the other basic stuff, like copy-pasting files.

    4 months ago | 0 comments
  • haloidesign
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    +1 Cmon guys, do you have a fix.

    Bug tracker or feature request opened to public ?

    1 year ago | 0 comments
  • warholla
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    need this... real bad

    1 year ago | 0 comments
  • Padje
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    @David :  Is there already some more inside information available about this so missed loss of workflow  ?  Thanks for your time and input

     

    1 year ago | 1 comment
  • procyoncreative
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    I found this workaround:

    http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1432540/creating-directory-hard-links-in-macos-x/#answer-1547720

    Someone made a nice package for the program if you know how to use homebrew.
    https://github.com/selkhateeb/hardlink
     

    It involves the command line, but I think if you know what a symlink is, you probably know how to use the terminal, right?

    So the problem is a soft link doesn't work. You gotta create a hard link.

    The guy in this answer knows C, I don't. But I just cut and pasted that program and it worked fine.

    So make a textfile called hlink.c and paste the program he posted. It's the part with the gray background that starts out like:

    #include <unistd.h> ....

    Just hit cmd+space on your mac and start typing "textedit". It will bring up the textedit file and you can save the pasted program as hlink.c

    Then you have to open a terminal window in the directory that has that file you just saved.

    Open the finder and control-click on the directory you made the file in. Like if it's on the Desktop, control click on desktop and go to the bottom of the popup menu that says "Services" and then select "Open new terminal at Folder"

    You should get a terminal window that pops up.


    Then you can put in the command "gcc hlink.c -o hlink"

    You don't need the rest. That's just to demo the new program you've created.

    So now that you have this hlink file in your directory, you can type ./hlink [source] [dest]

    [source] is the path to the folder you want to link. 

    [dest] is the place you want to make the link to. In my case, it was the template dir for Ableton.

    So I did:
     

     ./hlink ~/Desktop/Procyon\ Music ~/Music/Ableton/User\ Library/Template

    Also make sure that if you have a space in your directory names to put a backslash BEFORE the space.

    1 year ago | 1 comment
  • JBlongz
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    This is still a problem?  Pro mac users really need access to alias folders/files.

    1 year ago | 0 comments
  • esaruoho
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    it's still a problem. i guess should report this issue via twitter to @Ableton and hope for the best :(

    1 year ago | 0 comments
  • Sureno
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    +1 guys this really needs to be addressed

    1 year ago | 0 comments
  • sigonamusic
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    Yes this is a horrid problem, my samples folder has many aliases of folders stored on HDs, and now I cant use it! Please Ableton, listen to your loyal customers, we love your product, please fix this for us on next update.

    1 year ago | 0 comments
  • JAY78
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    +1

    11 months ago | 0 comments
  • Riddnce
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    +1 please update

    11 months ago | 0 comments
  • cheakypawl
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    3 years and counting.... maybe no one at ableton is interested, what do you think? will adding alias folders make ableton more money? will it take a year of coding to add the feature? what is the reasoning behind no alias folders?

    +1 for alias folders (but, clearly by now, no-one, not one single person involved anywhere, ever, at ableton gave a flying one about what you/I/we think)
    not here, not in the forum, not in the silly centercode page either.
     
    browsing is appalling on Live, always has been, although it was possibly better before.
     
    i particularly head-shake at the default closing of open folders as you open a second. completely unhelpful. (yes i know to hold the modifier to keep folders open but one finger wrong and that collapses like a pack of cards)
    11 months ago | 0 comments
  • JBlongz
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    They are not the only DAW having issues with Alias folders.  If it were something easy that did not disrupt the current level of stability, I'm sure it would be done already.  Sometimes I just want to write my own DAW to get all the features I want. Until then, I endure the pain, like every other super-successful producer making it work at the end of the day.  

    Peace

    10 months ago | 0 comments
  • vanKloot
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    This has once again risen to cause me extreme headache.  Please Ableton... are you even seeing this post with all the pleas from your users?  Could someone from Ableton please respond in here even if just to say "We don't plan on addressing this" or whatever??

    9 months ago | 0 comments
  • JBlongz
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    From my understanding and early research the Python coding language, its not possible to read alias files efficiently if Ableton uses python code for the file reading extensions as well.  Yes, its annoying, but hits are still being made in Ableton.

    9 months ago | 0 comments
  • JBlongz
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    Does anyone here know a DAW that supports Alias folders on the Mac???  Other than logic, which is written in Apple's native native code environment, I don't think there are others.  Correct me if I'm wrong.

    7 months ago | 1 comment
  • greekpeet
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    Rolling with 9.7.2

    Was hoping to eventually see this return, but sadly probably never coming back.

    Brilliant German engineering (TM) 

    Steinberg anyone??

    Remove critical features, stability, and add lot's of packs and artist interviews...

    5 months ago | 0 comments
  • ianbeerent
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    beyond the fact that it's disgusting this has been a feature request for 4 years, it's unacceptable for Ableton to literally go radio silent on this thread. This isn't some random one-off website....here we are at ABLETON.COM

    I'm going to copy the URL of this thread and email their support, I need this feature. Or, have the decency to explain why it won't be a feature to the bunches of upset customers who have shelled out tons of money for your software. To leave it not responded to is garbage.

     

    EDIT: Looking through the posts, looks like David (assuming he's at Ableton, or was) said he'd pass along feedback, and that it's not too inconvenient in meantime. Clearly, it's inconvenient, seen by all these people. But this was 2 years ago...  maybe an annual response on this thread would be good form? 

    4 months ago | 1 comment
  • cbwiedel
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    +1 Please add alias folder support. This is very much needed again.

    1 month ago | 0 comments
  • braincircus
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    This is super disappointing!!!! I use Ableton since more than 10 years but this alias bug and the silence of the company about it its really a no go at all!

    3 days ago | 0 comments

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