How can I get the "Session Record" button to stay ON constantly?

I have been performing with Live for years, from Live 6 up to 9.  With Live 9's Session Record button, I have been thrown off.  I need to be able to have pre-cut midi clips that await me playing into them.  I need to be able to ARM a midi track and play into its clip without having to click the Session Record button every time, for every clip or track change.

Maybe I'm missing something, but if I could just persuade the Session Record button to stay on all the time, I think everything would be fine.  But as it is, it switches off as soon as I dis-ARM a midi track -- any midi track.

 

Thanks. 

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yellotron 4 years ago | 0 comments

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  • ChaSta
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    Any way to make it stay on after hitting the stop button?

    2 years ago | 0 comments
  • Alberto877
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    same problem! 

    2 years ago | 0 comments
  • [daw]
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    Hi guys, 

    In Live's preferences -> record warp launch, you can change "Record session automation in" to "All tracks". 

    Once you changed this, the "Session Record Button" will not deactivate when you engage another track. 

    Hope this helps, 

    Daw

    2 years ago | 0 comments
  • Alberto877
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    Hi Daw 

    Thanks so much for your reply!

    The Session Record Button does stays on, but only if Automation Arm is enable, witch makes a big problem when performing changes (volume, track activator etc..)  that I do not want to automate. 

    In our live performance session, everything that I'm going to record/loop has an empty midi clip with the bar duration I need, and more important envelopes controlling witch instrument is selected inside and instrument rack.

    This way I can focus on playing music and don't worry about changing sounds etc...

    Sometimes I need to go from recording the bass in one track, and right away the synth on another track, the extra sec it takes to turn Session Record Button ON again destroys the first beat of the performance.

     

    One solution to the issue is using Clyphx  on an extra track, and rename it :

    []  (LSEQ)  SREC ON ; SREC ON

    If you keep that clip on loop it will turn Session Record Button ON every time it loops, then you need to stop the clip to turn it off, witch makes it a little inconvenient too.

    I wish there was a way to make it act like a regular Button in Ableton.

    Thoughts?

    Regards!

     

     

    2 years ago | 0 comments
  • Alberto877
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    Still looking for a way to do it!

    2 years ago | 0 comments
  • K1983
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    Has there been any additional progress on keeping the session record button engaged even after one hits stop ??? Just updated Ableton 8 to 9 and am beyond frustrated.  I took for granted how often I used this feature in 8. 

    1 year ago | 0 comments
  • ehause
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    Live 8 functionality no longer functioning in Live 9. Need Session Record lock.

                This is a detailed explanation of this issue which many others have encountered and been frustrated with (as noted in this thread posted a over year before I moved from live 8 to 9).

    https://www.ableton.com/answers/how-can-i-get-the-session-record-button-to-stay-on-constantly

                I contacted Ableton support and was thrilled to find spectacular customer support. Support tested and confirmed the issue suggested I submit it to the Live 9 Beta site for future consideration. I created a large amount of live performance work that did not work in Live 9 because of the new Session Record button. The solution support originally suggested works fine if the exclusive arm setting is off, but all my work requires it on.

    Here is a simple test scenario that illustrates the issue…

    Settings – screenshot1

     

    Set up as screenshot2 (actually third track is optional).

    Turn on “Session Record”.

    Hit trigger pedal 1 (Note B-2) --- Track 1 arms and starts recording.

    Hit trigger pedal 2 (Note C-1) ---

    Live 8 --- Track 1 disarms and continues playing, Track 2 arms and starts recording.

    Live 9 --- Track 1 disarms and continues playing, Track 2 arms but does not record because “Session Record” shut off.

    (You should also be able to hit pedal 3 between pedal I and 2, play instrument 3 without recording, and then go on to record on track 2 when you hit pedal 2.)

                This results in a huge piece of creative flexibility that is lost in Live 9.

    Please…

                Please consider adding a way to lock the Session Record button on, or some other method that addresses this issue.

    Work Around…

                After a great deal of research this is the only solution for a work around I have found. It takes some work to implement but so far allows me to carry out the live performance pretty much the way it worked in Live 8. It involves a technique I was already using which is creating a MIDI clip with trigger notes in it, and outputting it to a MIDI LoopBack device. Then the loopback notes are used to MIDI map any controls in Ableton, in this case the Session Record button. So... if there is a pedal hit that no longer works in Live 9 because the Session Record is off, I set my trigger clip to launch with the same pedal hit, and the clip turns the Session Record on. The launch quantization has to be set right for it to work but so far it is reliable.

    Screenshot3 – To turn Session Record on with the same pedal hit/trigger that performs other actions…Map the clip in a “RecTrigger” track to that same pedal hit/trigger.

    When the clip is triggered it outputs note C3 on midi channel 16 to the loopback output. Midi Map the Session Record button to note C3 on midi channel 16. When the clip is triggered the C3 note will loop back and turn on Session Record. Note that the launch quantization is set so that everything happens at the same time (beginning of a measure). Otherwise the Session Record ON message may happen before whatever causes the Session Record to be turned off. If you are unfamiliar with midi loopback just Google it, there are several free devices.

    Hopefully others can utilize this work around until there is a simpler solution.

    Thanks all,

    2 months ago | 1 comment

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