Drastic CPU Problems with Live 9.1 on a Mac Pro 4.1 with Mavericks

Hi,

I bought a Mac Pro 4.1 with 8 cores and 16gb RAM to improve my overall Performance. (had a mid 2011 i5 iMac before). But instead of working faster I recognize vast CPU and Latency problems: Instruments and Effects take much more CPU power now. I have over 20% CPU usage with just 8 Tracks whereas with my old iMac i was around 7%. When the CPU Load is over 25% I get nasty clicks or pops and I have to reduce the latency of my Fireface 800. 

Working with for example Kontakt 5 is not possible. One instance of Kontakt 5 with on loaded Studio Drummer Kit takes the CPU to 23-25%!

It seems to be a problem of Ableton because my CPU Analysing tool shows me a maximum of 2-6%  overall CPU Usage.

Thanks for your help!

 

Best Regards

addi307

 

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addi307 1 year ago | 1 comment

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  • SteamEngenius
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    Hey there,

    Check for something called "Intel Speed Step", and make sure it is disabled. This is a power saving feature that seems to dynamically mess with the CPU frequency.

    I have a new system with a Core i7 4790-K, but it couldn't even handle the projects that ran on my older system, which is probably only half as powerful. But after disabling the "Speed Step", all my sets ran perfectly with my new setup.

    This is a Windows system, so it is possible this won't apply to you. I had to disable the setting in my BIOS. Still, I really hope this helps you out... I know your pain!

    4 months ago | 2 comments
  • RhinoInRio
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    @ David:

    The above didn't help me. I get these enormous spikes in the Live CPU/disk indicator with glitches and drop outs. Everything is good at 10 - 20 % then all of a sudden 80- 85% for no apparent reason, and then back to 15%.  This never happened before. I am also not running many tracks, maybe 8 - 10. Sometimes I play the song and all is good and sometimes the same song starts freaking out with out having done anything to it. What's going on? It definitely is not my Mac.

    4 months ago | 0 comments
  • Nachey
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    Ableton shouls take care about CPU or many people could start to change of DAW. This is unacceptable

     
    11 months ago | 0 comments
  • camron122
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    SAME ISSUE ughhh no help from apple lets hope ableton can respond #UNSTABLETON 

    1 year ago | 0 comments
  • mcbpete
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    Looks like there's a few mentions of CPU fixes regarding third party plugins in the 9.1.3 beta builds: https://www.ableton.com/en/articles/live-9-beta-release-notes/

    So hopefully the next stable version will sort things for you both

    1 year ago | 0 comments
  • manuelbella
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    hallo, igot the same problem on win 7 x 64 after i installed the official 9.1.3 x64 version..

    please solve it ASAP, you solve one problem and create other problems.. grrrrrrr.

     

    11 months ago | 0 comments
  • manuelbella
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    whattaaa Fxxxk.. i uninstalled 9.1.3 then installed 9.1.2... but when i autorize online it replace in automatic with crap 9.1.3..

    i have to instal cracked 9.1.2???

    whattaFuxxx i need to work without spikes and glitches..

    i got 6 core I7 and 32gb ram ..

     

    11 months ago | 0 comments
  • JJ Deviation
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    Running 64-bit version of Ableton helped me with Kontakt 5 on newest (Haswell) MacBook Pro (Kontakt 4 seems to make it unstable)

    (I'm on 9.1.4  I don't know what 9.1.5 improves)

    8 months ago | 0 comments
  • [daw] Ableton staff
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    Hi all, 

    Please make sure to read through the steps provided in the following articles, covering Live's CPU meter, avoiding crackles / dropouts and reducing CPU load in Live: 

    https://www.ableton.com/en/articles/why-does-lives-cpu-meter-show-different-load-activity-monitor/

    https://www.ableton.com/en/articles/how-avoid-crackles-and-drop-outs/

    https://www.ableton.com/en/articles/reduce-cpu-load/

    At this point we are not aware of a general CPU usage issue with recent Live versions, but of course we also see the issues reported by some users and take them very seriously.

    In our experience it makes most sense to look at these cases individually, so if the steps mentioned in the articles above could not improve the situation, please get in touch with our support staff: 

    https://www.ableton.com/en/help/contact-support/

    Make sure to include a status report ( help -> get support ) so we can have a look at your system specs. 

    Best, 

    David

    8 months ago | 0 comments
  • Mike Reger
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    David/Ableton Staff-

    I'm on a late 2011, 2.2 Ghz i7 Mac Book Pro, with 16 GB RAM, running OSX 10.7.5 with plenty of hard drive space for virtual memory (200 Gb free out of 500). I use Live 9.1.7, I have both the 32 bit and the 64 bit versions. and have a M-Audio ProFire 610 soundcard. All of my projects are on an external Lacie 1Tb USB hard drive, but I often test running projects from local to compare speed. I have the same problem with everyone above.

    I as well have read and tried the above steps in those articles with ZERO success.

    Every since I upgraded to 9.1.7, I can barely load more than 2 non-native VST softsynths (doesnt matter which, Arturia V collection, Korg series, any Native Instruments all affected), before I get dramatic, skips, glitches and the enevidible soundcard-killing CPU spikes of 60%-80% (usually within seconds of hitting "play"). Same thing happens if I use any of the Ableton sponsored packs or Max for Live stuff.

    Even with just audio clips, if I start adding effect chains native to Ableton, things bog down and start clipping, skipping, glitching. I cant play ANY of my songs I wrote before 9.1.7. Back then I could easily load more than 16 tracks of VST synths and tons of effects plus audio bounces for each.

    Freezing tracks does no good, my buffer size is usually at 1024, but even 2048 doesnt help, I'm using 44100 Sample rate, 24 bit, tried dropping that to 16, no dice. I turn off WiFi when writing music and usually have just ablton open alone. I mean none of those steps even matter when I cant even start new songs with just 2 or so VSTs.

    The only thing that I can do in Live now is play with audio clips and that's pointless for my writing process. Please help.

     

    3 months ago | 1 comment
  • elgattogordo
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    New to Ableton - just purchased a Push and Live Intro and moving to Standard asap, but in tinkering, I notice this huge CPU drain as well.  I'm using a 2014 Haswell MPB with 100GB free drive space and no background applications running and wifi/bluetooth off.  Running off the battery, my power drops 10%in 10 minutes (not using Push, btw) and with just playing four simple loops with no effects, my CPU fans kick into high and the unit gets really hot.  Clearly something is amping up the CPU use, I just can't figure out what.  I also use Logic Pro X with 20-30 tracks, multiple effects, etc and don't get close to the same CPU usage I see here.  Something's definitely up.

    3 months ago | 0 comments
  • pents90
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    I also experienced a massive reduction in performance when upgrading to 9.1.x on a Mac running Yosemite. I had to downgrade back to 9.0.6 or else none of my existing projects can play without drop-outs. It's very demoralizing that there seems to be no fix coming and, in fact, no acknowledgment from Ableton that there is even a problem.

    1 month ago | 0 comments
  • [daw] Ableton staff
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    Hi all, 

    Sorry to hear that some of you are still experiencing issues.

    I can totally understand how frustrating inexplicable issues like this can be at first, but again, I would like to point out that those cases should be looked into on an individual level, as the root causes for such performance issues can be extremely diverse.

    Please get in touch with our support staff over here:

    https://www.ableton.com/en/help/contact-support/

    Performance issues with software are not easy to track, as they are quite often caused or amplified by other third party applications and sometimes even are a result of hardware conflicts or damage. 

    In order to address them, we need clear reproduction scenarios, to hand them over to our developers, and this is where we rely on your help. 

    If you send in a detailed description of how you can trigger these issues, along with a recent status report from Live, we will look into things and pass this on if it is reproducible. 

    So if you want things to improve, please help us in doing so. 

    "It works in software xy", "Ableton fix it" or "Didn't happen in Live 8" are completely understandable expressions of your dissatisfaction, but they surely won't speed up any development in a desired direction. 

    Best, 

    David

     

     

    1 month ago | 0 comments

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