Poor performance in live 9

Has anyone else noticed how poor the performance is in L9 compared to previous versions ?

I have been a Live user since V1, and have had various macs to run it on, my latest is a MBP 2.7Ghz i7 with 16Gb ram, Mountain Lion, and I can only run about 5-6 tracks with minimal FX and 2 or 3 soft synths before it grinds to a halt with 512 sample buffer !!!

I have to increase buffer to at least 1200 samples to get anything near useable. 

Live 8 on the same mac runs beautifully with many more plugs and fx.

This is quite a dissapointment and embaressment for Ableton I feel. 

I have push on order (another issue as I was quoted delivery at the beginning of March !!) which is why I needed L9, but thinking of cancelling that order now, as I cannot see how I'll be able to play with the low latency you need in a live situation. 

I really don't feel the extra features of L9 are worth the performance downgrade required, at least on my system. Ableton, I'd be pleased to hear from you. In my request to support I was sent a nice video as to how to adjust the latency !!!!! Come on, I've been using Live since V1 

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Tokin Tone 1 year ago | 1 comment

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  • Near Earth Object
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    Same here again. Did a clean reinstall (again), this time with 9.0.4, and had to reset everything. I tried every version of Live so far, and it just does not work!
    Takes 5 minutes to open a (new) set, and as soon as i touch one of my midi controllers, everything freezes, and the only way to get it started again is to restart the computer. Ableton helpdesk has given me about ten different possible issues (again) and after trying everything for several times and not being able to use my Live 9 since i bought it months ago, i'm done with it.
    I just can't spend all my time to get the damn program to work. Live 8 works fine, like it always has, and i'm going to work with that, just to be able to do anything. I shouldn't have to change my entire studio just to get this version of Live 9 working. What have you guys done to it?
    So, back to Live 8. It's a real shame that I paid for it, because as long as it does not work, or crashes every 5 minutes, I will not be using it again.
    Please please please fix it!

    10 months ago | 0 comments
  • Tokin Tone
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    Somethings happened ....  The live 9.0.3 update seems to have fixed my memory spike issues, though it wasn't mentioned in the bug reports. If this is the case and it wasn't anything else weird going on with my system, then well done Ableton !

    I can now have 5-6 zebra synths + audio tracks at 125 sample buffer size and it barely touches 10% on the CPU meter :))))))

    Thank you, I have a lot more confidence using this as my one and only program now !

     

    1 year ago | 1 comment
  • sebprovision
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    I have a similar issue with Live 9 compared to Live 8 except my CPU is running at 100% with Live 9 using 65% of that as well as my Multicore option being disabled in the CPU section of Live's preferences.

     

    CPU
    Intel Core i7 930 @ 2.80GHz
    Bloomfield 45nm Technology
    RAM
    12.0GB Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 534MHz (8-8-8-20)
    Motherboard
    ASUSTeK Computer INC. P6T SE (LGA1366)
     
    I'm sure Live shouldn't be crawling with those specs, unfortunately I don't know what CPU usage Live 8 was utilizing as I never had a reason (issue) to make me look!..
     
    1 year ago | 1 comment
  • polar_bear
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    I'm glad to see I'm not the only one running into this issue. Just wrote to Ableton about it. I have a project that was running rock solid at 46 samples (buffer) in my trial version of Live 8 (it would even run pretty well at 30 with maybe one random pop/click/dropout every 5 or 10 minutes) and now a project that is virtually the same won't run well at less than 78 in Live 9. In fact I think I am using even fewer plug-ins on the new one and it still won't even approach the level of performance I had going in Live 8. I really hope they let me trade in my Live 9 license for a Live 8 license instead!! Or better yet FIX Live 9 but I don't want to wait around while they debug that....trying to use this for upcoming performances.

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    1 year ago | 0 comments
  • jesseperez
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    Yes! I'm running a 2.53 Intel Core i5 with 4G of RAM.

    Ableton 8 ran flawlessly (apart from a few crashes here and there)

    Ableton 9 screams the processor, I get spinning rainbow wheel every time I go to do anything, I get glitchy audio when I adjust the velocity in the MIDI editor during playback - god knows what else I will find here.

    I fail to see how this is an upgrade :/

    1 year ago | 0 comments
  • loudness81
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    I'm having the same issues on my PC, 4 core I7 running windows 7.
    With Ableton 8 it worked flawlessly, since the update to 9 it's really unstable, crashes, latency peaks and sometimes dropouts. It also takes really long even to start the program. I'm definitely considering the rollback till Ableton has fixed the problems.

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  • luckyOne
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    Same here. I went back to Live 8 after a couple of frustrating evenings with 9.

    One thing I notice yesterday though is that Live 9 performs better in live performance than Live 8. I have a big project for my live-set with many clips, driven by a launchpad and a midi keyboard, and surprisingly that project runs much better on 9. The launchpad control is much more effective and fluent, definitively more fun than before!

    I guess they have concentrated on that aspect for Push and completely forgot about the regular production workflow..

     

    1 year ago | 0 comments
  • Tokin Tone
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    I spoke too soon, 9.0.3 hasn't really improved CPU spikes much, it seems totally random as to when it will decide to not even run @ 1000+ on the audio buffer.

    Please ableton take note. I'm going back to 8 for now, but I have push coming soon, so am very worried about the performance when I have to use 9 !!!

    11 months ago | 0 comments
  • Hitch70
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    Thank god im not alone!
    Decided to fork up the cash for ableton 9 and what a mistake that was.
    Used live 8 before running up to 8-9 different vst and just as many audio. Effects and all and the cpu stayed at 20%.
    With 9 i can start 1-2 vst synths and im up to30-40%.
    Just sad to not getting any real replies instead of excuses about buffer siza and freezing tracks. Ableton wake up and take notice!!

    11 months ago | 0 comments
  • Heyclown
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    You guys are mentioning the 9.03. All I can see is the 9.02 when logging in. SO the 9.03 is out? Any idea where I can find it?

    Any help appreciated.

    11 months ago | 1 comment
  • loudness81
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    9.03 was out only for 1 day, than they took it back because it caused even more trouble, that's what ableton support told me on the phone.

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  • Trinity_Yard
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    ableton do something, this cpu issues drives me mad. cant even open 20 instruments without crunching. i have 16 giga ram and the 64version!! how's that possible?! and noo, ist not my soundcard! sometimes even the live section is moving left/right without doing anything...seems like it's possesed by a demon.

    11 months ago | 0 comments
  • Leebaines75
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    9.04 is about to get slung out the window.......took about 5 mins to get to splash screen so uninstalled....reinstalled will not load up at all now.....waste of money I think.

    11 months ago | 0 comments
  • mr_melvis
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    Running an i7 950 OC'ed to 3.8gHz and SSDs (PC) and have NO performance issues at all moving from 8 Suite to 9 Suite.  I have heard a few of my friends with MACs say 9 runs slower - but I'm not seeing it at all on my PC...

    11 months ago | 0 comments
  • Regrind
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    I hate it for you fellas. I haven't experienced any of these problems with L9. I love it. 

    And I'm running it on a $500 VAIO E Series notebook, optimized to hell and back, but still no problems. CPU usage gets a little cranky if I unplug my AudioBox. 

    Even running 5 or 6 different Massive patches and a few Razor patches, rarely get over 20-30% CPU usage. 

    Hope they get y'all running smooth. 

    10 months ago | 0 comments
  • bminor
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    Same for me. Live 9 Suite uses about an extra 20-30% CPU compared to Live 8 Suite. So now a project which was at 30% is at 50-60%. That's unacceptable in an upgrade - in fact how can that be called an upgrade at all.

    I'm just glad I still have Live 8 working. If Ableton can't get this sorted out I'll look for an alternative DAW next time round.

    10 months ago | 0 comments
  • sebprovision
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    Just a note,

    to anyone has experienced performance problems when first opening Live 9, be sure to wait for the indexing icon/processing to finish, I'd even recommended just leaving it to finish before doing anything, especially for the first time. I added my own sample library to 'Places' which took ages to update with the amount of samples I had...

    Getting this out of the way is obviously important for searching terms and locating lost files next to instantly. 

    People may have jumped the gun too early without taking this into consideration.

    10 months ago | 0 comments
  • [stm] Ableton staff
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    Hi,

    In order to not let this thread derail, I'm locking it - the problems discussed are various and non-specific. In order to solve them, it's best to contact our Support directly. Please also see this querstion on Answers for more information on the use of the platform:

    https://www.ableton.com/answers/how-do-i-improve-the-chances-of-having-my-question-answered

    10 months ago | 0 comments
  • [stm] Ableton staff
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    Hi,

     

    Sorry to hear about the issues. Please contact our Support with performance problems or crashes - Live 9's performance should not differ from Live 8's greatly. 

    11 months ago | 1 comment
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