Fixed Length recording for Audio clips with Push 2

Hey guys, I'm learning the new Push 2 workflow and I seem to be missing something. 

With MIDI clip recording, I can activate "fixed length" and set to 4 bars, and everything is easy. I record 4 bars and it automatically ends the clip & resumes playback at the next drop beat. That's what I expected to see.

However, when recording AUDIO clips, it seems to ignore my fixed length preference. The button is still pulsing (indicating it is actually still on) and MIDI clips still act as they should in fixed length mode. Audio clips continue to record until I push a button to stop it manually. This seems very atypical, correct?

I'm running Push 2, updated firmware, Live 9.5 Suite, El Capitan on a brand new MB Pro quad core, max ram, SSD, with all permissions repaired and terminal "sudo" command ran today. All should be BLAZING along without a hitch.

Am I missing something?

Thanks in advance.

 

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bobbyduracel 1 year ago | 1 comment

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  • bobbyduracel
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    I found the answer. The workflow is quite specific - and you need to know the following:

    Simply activating the "fixed length" record mode does NOT automatically apply to the recording of AUDIO clips in session view, as it does for the MIDI tracks/clips.

    In order to take advantage of that function you must approach it differently - i.e. you cannot just click a pink box on an armed channel and expect it to stop at your mark and re-loop automatically.

    1. Hold the record button and click the button at the bottom of the LCD that corresponds to your audio track. This arms the track to record.

    2. While holding down SELECT, tap the light red (pink) cell that corresponds to your blank clip, where you intend to record audio.

    3. NOW hit the record button (bottom left) to activate the recoding. This will behave in the way you wish. The audio clip will auto-stop, and automatically playback as a loop, in sync.

    A lot of the questions I've wrestled with this past few weeks were answered HERE today:https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoh4MB-kbBmKXRhohbHS7Qjv3vazRl4X_

    So I encourage you to start there, and branch out with your search. 

    1 year ago | 0 comments
  • LithiuMind
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    It doesn't apply the same way to MIDI Clips either as far as I can tell... I cannot get it to reliably create fixed length clips in Session view at all!  I do not understand this. very confusing.  I've sent support a request for clarification.

     

    1 year ago | 0 comments
  • kope
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    I learned this thing also the hard way. I still don't understand what would be the benefit behind this approach instead of making it behaving the same way as for recording midi clips.

    1 year ago | 0 comments
  • adnameless
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    I also have a "fixed length" related issue. Got the device yesterday and I'm pretty sure I'm just missing something. When trying to set fixed length the screen displays the following: "fixed length undefined". At the bottom of the screen the usual set lengths are not displayed and I am therefore unable to set recording length. Anyone know a way around this?

    1 year ago | 0 comments
  • Amberience
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    Oh man this is an absolute fail. Why did they design it this way!?!

    1 year ago | 0 comments
  • juuun
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    so no one knows how to fix it yet? I guess I gotta just press the record button at the end of my recording.

    6 months ago | 0 comments
  • giantsteps
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    I'm surprised by Ableton's lack of response / docs / tuts presenting the solution to this problem; as well as it being missing from the forums.  The proposed solution in this thread doesn't work.

     

    One thing that seems to be missing from every help request on this topic is the posters want to record a fixed length audio clip on Push2 upon launching scene playback.  If so, here's the solution... 

     

    How to record fixed length audio clips using Push 2 upon session mode playback launch:

     

    In Live, turn "On" Preferences>Record Warp Launch>Start Playback With Record

     

    In Live, turn "On" Preferences>Record Warp Launch>Select on Launch

     

    In Live, turn "On" Preferences>Record Warp Launch>Start Recording on Scene Launch

     

    Press the Mix mode button on Push2 near the top-right corner so track labels are visible on the LCD.

     

    Press the Session mode button near the bottom right corner of Push2 so the slip slot LED's display.

     

    Hold down the select button at bottom right corner of Push2 and then double click the Stop Clip button near the bottom left corner of the LCD to zero the in-points of all session clips.

     

    Navigate to display the desired record track label on the LCD and it's target clip slot on the session clip slot LEDs using the arrow buttons below the mix mode button on Push2.

     

    Record arm the audio track containing the target clip slots by holding down the record (circle) button and then pressing the track's button (below it's LCD label) on Push2.

     

    Hold down the Select button in the bottom right corner and then press the scene button at the left on Push2 to activate the scene containing the target record clip.

     

    Hold down the Select button in the bottom right corner and then press the LED pad for the target record slot to activate it.

     

    Check whether the Fixed Length button is flashing.  If so it's active so move onto the next step.  If not, press it once to activate it; at which point it'll start flashing.

     

    Hold down the Fixed Length button and then the button below the LCD corresponding to the desired clip length.  As a precaution, if it's already selected; select any other time option and then the one you want again to ensure it's activated.  This was an issue on Push1 but I don't remember if it's the case with Push2.

     

    Assuming your sync, record source and record track routing is properly setup; Press the target clip slot LED pad to launch playback and record a fixed length audio clip into  said slot.  At this point if desired, you can press other empty slot LED's on the same track and / or other scene buttons with empty slots for said track to keep recording new clips on that track.

     

    It would seem obvious the efficient way to do this would be activating the Fixed Length feature, setting it to the desired length and recording fixed length clips into any session slot upon playback start without having to pre-select tracks and clips as long as prefs are set to start record on playback and scene launch.

     

    Why this isn't so obvious to Ableton is they aren't focused on production as much as live performance.  Too bad since one of Ableton's greatest creative offerings is a non-linear approach to production.  Live performers spontaneously record and sample fixed length clips during playback; producers want to start recording fixed length clips upon launching playback - because they don't want things like sustain, reverb and / or effects tails carrying over from the end of the same or preceding clip.

    3 months ago | 0 comments
  • bootsnake
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    I'm still struggling figuring this out... Please help me with a video or something

    27 days ago | 0 comments

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