Creating dub style sounds like brendon moeller

I was reading an article how brendon moeller uses dub style delay, reverb and other techniques similar to sirens etc for his techno production.

What sort of tips or fx chains etc can you suggest for that dubby sound?

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Nav 2 years ago | 0 comments

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  • Mark One
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    Possibly the most ubiquitous Dub effect is to set up a Return Track with a Delay on it (Filter Delay - Complex 5 for example), also wise to add a Limiter (Upper Ceiling @ -6dB).

    Have a look at this: http://postimage.org/image/10lwbzspw/

    Then at the bottom of the Return Track enable the Send so you can feed the signal back to itself. Turn the Send on the Return Track up to about 75% then CAREFULLY send snippets of audio from whichever track in your song you want to delay. Careful because the feedback can build up high levels quickly and that's why a Limiter is advised. 

    You can do the same thing with Reverb effects too.

    Set your Send controls to a MIDI controller if possible so you can 'throw' in snippets of audio from any of your tracks in the mix/live. Also try adding a Reverb Return as I explained and then sending some of the Delay Return to the Reverb Return..... It's all about send & return, play around with different effects and the concept of feeding signals back but remember to be careful : ))

    Enjoy : )

    M-A-R-K

    Ableton user for 7 years... and counting : )

    2 years ago | 0 comments
  • EmanuelePertoldi
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    To have an instant dub chord, use a synth (analog if you have it) with some saws or squares, make a minor chord. In Ableton put a LoPass filter with a low cut-off and and high envelope. Put anoter filter with band pass (move the frequency it to change the sound between 500 Hz - 1500 Hz), put a ping pong delay (set up it with 3/4) with aproximately 70% feedback and 45% dry/wet, and after put a reverb.

    Hope it will be usefull ;)

    Cheers

    2 years ago | 0 comments
  • cutwithflourish
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    The common trick for dub effects is to have a delay on a return that feeds back into itself (as already mentioned). I had a quick listen to some Brendan Moeller tracks on You Tube and there are a few other things that might give you similar results.

    You can additional effects after the delay (but post-fader) so that each delay is effected more and more. Things like distortion, saturation, panners, pitch-shifters and resonant filters can all work. The tracks I listened seem to have some filtering - you can try this both before the feedback into the delay or of the whole delay.

    Automating or modulating some of these can also make things interesting and can create good variations that work live.

    Modulating panning of sounds, phasing and having slightly different delay times for left and right can also help create a sense of space. Experimentation with reverb will also be your friend here.

    There are also many audio plug-ins that emulate both tape delays and spring reverbs which are the cornerstone of many "dubby" sounds.

    2 years ago | 0 comments
  • Ableton_David Ableton staff
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    If you're interested in making a spring reverb in Live, then check out this thread: http://www.ableton.com/answers/can-you-get-a-good-plate-or-spring-reverb-sound-with-live-s-built-in-reverb

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  • Nav
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    Thanks Mark, am I right in thinking tin dub styles the FX are used along with simple chord stabs etc to build up the sound?

     
    2 years ago | 1 comment
  • eiermann1952
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    i´m not much into dub yet but i´m trying ; )

    the send/return thing is a must, with delay and a filter on it and don´t forget to activate the send knob with a right click ! not to forget the limiter, so your speakers don´t crash.

    but the secret to dub is to assign an aditional knob on your midi controler to the delay time of your delay effect. right click  the delay effect in the titel row and change the mode from fade to repitch.

    dubby hamburg ;)

    2 years ago | 0 comments
  • sono
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    http://www.youtube.com/user/FingersInTheNoise#p/u/2/kOjo5FurRVg

     

    Check the Channel. Really good tutorials there, and great music ;)

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