APC40 II rotary encoders and Live instrument fx parameters: "where is here?"

greetings everyone

i am writing with a question about using LIVE 9 (standard) with APC40 mkII.

the two function well together, but i find that when i start to work with the rotary encoders in DEVICE DETAIL view i quickly lose my point of reference for which control i can expect to adjust (obviously, the APC does not display dynamic labeling on its rotary encoders, so one is by default "in the dark" here).

and of course each device in live has its own controls as well. so i understand that for each device the rotary encoders will line up differently.

however there seems to be no consistent approach that i can determine for interpreting or even guessing what the role of each encoder will be once i change device focus or banks within the same device -- i basically just have to start turning encoders until i find out "where i am".

has anyone developed even a general guideline for what to expect from the encoder layout and bank-to-parameter-group assignments when one works with devices? having to search around to find the parameter i'm hoping to adjust consumes both time and attention (and of course other things may get changed in the process).

i am certain many might suggest that with PUSH one might not encounter this difficulty, but APC is what i have!

any suggestions (if suggestions even exist!) would be greatly appreciated. perhaps the answer is simply: yes, that's just how it is and that's that!

best,

O-99

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otalgia99 10 months ago | 0 comments

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  • Near Earth Object
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    Yes,it's sometimes hard to find the right controls :-)  Suggestion: start making racks and use macros for fuctions you use a lot.

    10 months ago | 0 comments
  • otalgia99
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    thanks! very practical suggestion. i've been making racks for things like aggregating sounds, but never thought to use them as a "wrapper" for an existing effect (such as a comp).

    i guess i could also just put an afternoon in to learning the native assigns on fx i use a lot as well. but i just upgraded to Standard and now... there are... so.... many... of them!!!!!

    thanks again and all the best,

    O-99

    10 months ago | 0 comments
  • otalgia99
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    hello again, N.E.O.

    don't know if you'll see this, but your answer (above) now sparks a new question:

    as far as i can see, there can only be one rack in a track's devices at a time (but please correct me if i am wrong about that). if that is the case, then i can't use a rack as a "wrapper" for an effect, map the macros and then insert that effect rack downstream from any other rack.

    i could add (for example) a compressor as one chained item in a rack, devote some macros to it, and then add other items in new chains... but...  the chains don't send their output to other chains, right? the comp would just sit there receiving no audio... am i correct?

    and if i add a compressor to a rack POST-instrument (so, not as a contained chain of the rack) then only the current chain outputs to it; any other chains would need their own comps as well, yes? (which, in addition to using up all the macros in a hurry,  would be just plain.... silly!)

    i bet there's something basic i'm missing so please do illuminate if indeed you do happen to see this.

    best,

    O99

    10 months ago | 0 comments

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