Next Live 6.0.2 beta: Live 6.0.2b7!

Post by **Alex** » Fri Dec 01, 2006 10:55 pm

Hi folks,

a beta version of the upcoming Live 6.0.2 bug fix release is online.
This version 6.0.2b7 is free for every Live 6 user.

Use the following links to download the beta:

http://www.ableton.com/_common/download ... e602b7.dmg
http://www.ableton.com/_common/download ... e602b7.zip

Please send all your beta feedback to beta@ableton.com.

Note: Because the version is in beta state we strongly recommend to operate
on copies of your data only.

Kind Regards,
/Alex

Changes from Live 6.0.2b6 to Live 6.0.2b7

Improvement:

Added several missing text translations

Bug fix:

The check to prevent the creation of frozen files > 2 GB would not work properly.

Announcement of Live 6.0.2b6
http://www.ableton.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=53356

Announcement of Live 6.0.2b5
http://www.ableton.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=53090

Announcement of Live 6.0.2b4
http://www.ableton.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=52759

michkhol · Post by **michkhol** » Sat Dec 02, 2006 4:13 am

I'm speechless....

So instead of enabling 64bit file support you just put a hard limit of 2Gb on freezes???? Well I guess I'm the only one here who deals with live recordings more that 50min long.

Post by **Alex** » Sat Dec 02, 2006 12:03 pm

Hi michkhol,

This 2GB limit exists also for recording & rendering, it was just not working properly for freezing. So that's what we fixed

Unfortunately the 64 bit file support you did mention is not nothing on the level of "enabling". It needs research and effort but it's an issue we are working on. Bu when and how it will make it into Live I cannot yet say.

Regards,
/Alex

michkhol · Post by **michkhol** » Sat Dec 02, 2006 3:53 pm

Alex wrote:Hi michkhol,

This 2GB limit exists also for recording & rendering, it was just not working properly for freezing. So that's what we fixed

Unfortunately the 64 bit file support you did mention is not nothing on the level of "enabling". It needs research and effort but it's an issue we are working on. Bu when and how it will make it into Live I cannot yet say.

Regards,
/Alex

I see inconsistency here. I was able to record an audio file, it is less than 2Gb but I'm not able to freeze it. I would assume once a system allowed me to get the file in, it would allow me to perform all kinds of standard operations on it.

I'm glad that you are working on it. Frankly I'm surprised that Ableton still uses 32 bit file support because uncompressed high quality audio files can be (and are) quite big. What I meant by "enabling" was passing right options for compiler (GCC for example) to support 64 bit file access. If the program is written with 64bit file access in mind from groundup it's the matter of recompiling. But it seems for Live it's not the case.

DIgiDennis · Post by **DIgiDennis** » Sat Dec 02, 2006 6:59 pm

Its possible to write/create ie. 50gb avi files in 1 process on a 32 bit system. Whats the difference ?

michkhol · Post by **michkhol** » Sun Dec 03, 2006 4:22 am

DIgiDennis wrote:Its possible to write/create ie. 50gb avi files in 1 process on a 32 bit system. Whats the difference ?

If you use 32bit signed integers to store clip offsets for non-desctructive editing for example, it won't work if the clip is beyond the 2Gb boundary.

posssu · Post by **posssu** » Mon Dec 04, 2006 1:19 am

So is there any way to record longer than 50min, like some live gigs?

jbm · Post by **jbm** » Mon Dec 04, 2006 2:24 pm

Well, if you have a piece of software that can record longer than 2 GB files, use Jack OS X or Soundflower to route your Live output into that app... This is on OS X, mind you... not sure about XP.

Sorry, don't know which apps support the larger file size, off the top of my head.

J.

michkhol · Post by **michkhol** » Mon Dec 04, 2006 2:39 pm

posssu wrote:So is there any way to record longer than 50min, like some live gigs?

60 min mono at 96/24 takes about a gig. Freezing it takes more than twice space (don't know why). It seems that the only way for now is to use another DAW.

timothyallan · Post by **timothyallan** » Mon Dec 04, 2006 10:30 pm

I believe freezing takes twice the space because it will loop through the audio twice so it maintains a proper tail for 'verbs and delays...

serotoninsteve · Post by **serotoninsteve** » Mon Dec 04, 2006 11:56 pm

In envelopes mode in an audiotrack,
when you click in the area above the loop brace,
then click back on the loopbrace itself,
the loopbrace still jumps to the left.
Just wanted to remeber this one.

Greetings

TheAnimal · Post by **TheAnimal** » Tue Dec 05, 2006 4:10 pm

What about the edit button?

eldar · Post by **eldar** » Tue Dec 05, 2006 8:08 pm

TheAnimal wrote:What about the edit button?

+1

fzero · Post by **fzero** » Wed Dec 06, 2006 1:41 pm

eldar wrote:
TheAnimal wrote:What about the edit button?
+1

+2

zenke · Post by **zenke** » Wed Dec 06, 2006 2:47 pm

WE WANT THE EDIT BUTTON BACK........... please!