Echo

maureefa · Post by **maureefa** » Sat Jul 21, 2007 3:29 pm

How do i create an echo with the standard effects Ableton has? I know a delay is similar but it's not the same and i can't find any effect like a proper echo here.

Angstrom · Post by **Angstrom** » Sat Jul 21, 2007 4:03 pm

could you explain what you think the difference is between a delay and an echo ?

Mr Man · Post by **Mr Man** » Sat Jul 21, 2007 4:24 pm

Whats a proper echo i wonder here!

DIgiDennis · Post by **DIgiDennis** » Sat Jul 21, 2007 4:59 pm

HVAD DRIKKER MØLLER!.......ØLLER.......ØLLER......Øller

thats an echo, if in doubt

Lo-Fi Massahkah · Post by **Lo-Fi Massahkah** » Sat Jul 21, 2007 5:18 pm

DIgiDennis wrote:HVAD DRIKKER MØLLER!.......ØLLER.......ØLLER......Øller

thats an echo, if in doubt

So the difference between delay and echo is the echo chops off the first consonant, while delay does not?

Är det det du säger? äger.... äger... äger...

-M

DIgiDennis · Post by **DIgiDennis** » Sat Jul 21, 2007 6:07 pm

it depends much on the environment ofcourse....but in general yes

hacktheplanet · Post by **hacktheplanet** » Sat Jul 21, 2007 9:34 pm

Simple Delay
Linked mode
50% wet
65% feedback

Bam

jez3122 · Post by **jez3122** » Sun Jul 22, 2007 8:11 pm

maureefa wrote:How do i create an echo with the standard effects Ableton has? I know a delay is similar but it's not the same and i can't find any effect like a proper echo here.

(and i realise this is probably the wrong way but here goes)
say for example if i want to have an echo on the end of a spoken sample for instance, i dulicate the clip the sample is in and then use a volume envelope to silence the sample until just after the first letter of the last word is spoken.
then i just put delay on that clip and mess around with the settings until it sounds right.
then i just play both clips together...

wilxon · Post by **wilxon** » Mon Jul 23, 2007 2:29 am

Lo-Fi Massahkah wrote:
DIgiDennis wrote:HVAD DRIKKER MØLLER!.......ØLLER.......ØLLER......Øller

thats an echo, if in doubt
So the difference between delay and echo is the echo chops off the first consonant, while delay does not?

Är det det du säger? äger.... äger... äger...

-M

like this song: "under my Umberella..... ella.... ella...

wilxon · Post by **wilxon** » Mon Jul 23, 2007 2:35 am

jez3122 wrote:
maureefa wrote:How do i create an echo with the standard effects Ableton has? I know a delay is similar but it's not the same and i can't find any effect like a proper echo here.
(and i realise this is probably the wrong way but here goes)
say for example if i want to have an echo on the end of a spoken sample for instance, i dulicate the clip the sample is in and then use a volume envelope to silence the sample until just after the first letter of the last word is spoken.
then i just put delay on that clip and mess around with the settings until it sounds right.
then i just play both clips together...

That is what's called engineering.

You want to achieve something both specifically artistic and technical, and you have thought of a way to achieve it.

Well done - that thinking outside the box.

Have you tried it - if you are wrong and it doesn't work - you've lost nothing.

Tone Deft · Post by **Tone Deft** » Mon Jul 23, 2007 2:45 am

unlinking the clip envelope and using a volume envelope you should be able to make a clip loop and on each loop more and more of the first part of the sample will be cut off.

probably easiest to just do it by hand with volume envelopes.

Angstrom · Post by **Angstrom** » Mon Jul 23, 2007 11:02 am

this is funny.

you know - a 'real echo' might be more properly termed 'reverb'. It's just a case of what the space is like if it gives you distinct echoes or a big traditional sounding smear.
the reason the initial 'syllable' is truncated is because the first part is getting scattered across the many similar surfaces the first 'delay' comes back in a cloud. soft vowels don't reveal this as much as hard consonants.

a real reverberant space that would give you an 'echo', like a cave, could be crudely modeled by racking delays and reverbs set to blur the transients.

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