YOU WARPED THE OTHER ONES FINE! NOW WHY NOT THIS ONE?

register · Post by **register** » Mon Jul 23, 2007 1:09 am

... why does this happen? never made a DJ set in live before, having a crack with a tight timescale. warping to beats, it just can't find the tempo for shit.
ass
Tom

Tone Deft · Post by **Tone Deft** » Mon Jul 23, 2007 1:22 am

once you warp 100 songs it ain't no thing but a chicken wing.

find a short drumbeat you like, loop it.
warp to that drumbeat, you'll know they're tight when the two just blend together transparently. it takes some practice but in the end it's easy. look around for tutorials (tips and tricks sticky) and check www.abletonlivedj.com for more, I think there are some tutorials over there, there's a guide here
http://vinkalmann.com/index.php?option= ... &Itemid=26

3dot... · Post by **3dot...** » Mon Jul 23, 2007 8:56 am

Do some work you lazy bastard...
plus I found that live has a hard time especially with 'digitized' Vinyls...
But as Tondeft said.. "ain't no thing..."

leisuremuffin · Post by **leisuremuffin** » Mon Jul 23, 2007 10:02 am

i usually rub a contact mic on my balls, put it thru a delay and call it a show. anyone else?

.lm.

tranqui · Post by **tranqui** » Mon Jul 23, 2007 10:31 am

live is NOT dj-software. get over it. if you want to dj, get a set if digital or analogue decks and a mixer. if you want to dj using a computer, get traktor.

using live for "djing", i.e. playing back pre-warped tracks, is lame beyond measure. sorry, that's my opinion.

why eat tofu if you can get a steak?

forge · Post by **forge** » Mon Jul 23, 2007 10:50 am

tranqui wrote:live is NOT dj-software. get over it. if you want to dj, get a set if digital or analogue decks and a mixer. if you want to dj using a computer, get traktor.

using live for "djing", i.e. playing back pre-warped tracks, is lame beyond measure. sorry, that's my opinion.

why eat tofu if you can get a steak?

well, people have to start somewhere

to be honest the only times I've used it live I've used it like a glorified DJ set but with the added bonus of cool FX and looping etc

I'm no where near confident - even after using Live since 1.5 - that I can do a totally made up on the spot Live set and not bore the crowd to tears - IMO that's the big danger of Live - you can get so caught up in tangents that it might not actually sound that interesting to people out front

I have always used it mainly for production though

straight DJing is the beginning point, then when he can do that he can start learning more

anyway, for the question, there are plenty of good tips and tricks in the so named section of the forum - look for one by Chris Cowie

chrysalis33rpm · Post by **chrysalis33rpm** » Mon Jul 23, 2007 11:58 am

tranqui wrote:live is NOT dj-software. get over it. if you want to dj, get a set if digital or analogue decks and a mixer. if you want to dj using a computer, get traktor.

using live for "djing", i.e. playing back pre-warped tracks, is lame beyond measure. sorry, that's my opinion.

why eat tofu if you can get a steak?

Well, it can be a little boring if all you can imagine doing with it is mixing 2 dance tracks in series for 4 hours...but it opens up all kinds of possiblities of what to be doing in the time which previously you had to be beatmatching.

The instant gratification of mixing with vinyl isnt quite there, and something about turntables feels athletic in a way that the computer doesn't, but I eat stirfried tofu with veggies and rice when that's what I am in the mood for, and a steak and potatoes dinner when that's what I want, too.

Live is a new paradigm with new possibilties and much expanded horizons...part of it is learning to use it in a similar way to the older technologies...and part of it is just new. It's only as "lame" as the user's imagination.

Patch · Post by **Patch** » Mon Jul 23, 2007 12:17 pm

tranqui - you are a fool.

Chenkwee. Yekshemsh.

resonatorman · Post by **resonatorman** » Mon Jul 23, 2007 1:36 pm

why eat tofu if you can get a steak?

......cuz I like tofu & I hate steak ':lol:'.

pepezabala · Post by **pepezabala** » Mon Jul 23, 2007 3:19 pm

register wrote:... why does this happen? never made a DJ set in live before, having a crack with a tight timescale. warping to beats, it just can't find the tempo for shit.
ass
Tom

maybe an odd time signature?

Tarekith · Post by **Tarekith** » Mon Jul 23, 2007 4:02 pm

tranqui wrote:live is NOT dj-software. get over it. if you want to dj, get a set if digital or analogue decks and a mixer. if you want to dj using a computer, get traktor.

using live for "djing", i.e. playing back pre-warped tracks, is lame beyond measure. sorry, that's my opinion.

why eat tofu if you can get a steak?

+1, Live DJs are sooo lame.

vinkalmann · Post by **vinkalmann** » Mon Jul 23, 2007 4:23 pm

tranqui wrote:live is NOT dj-software. get over it. if you want to dj, get a set if digital or analogue decks and a mixer. if you want to dj using a computer, get traktor.

using live for "djing", i.e. playing back pre-warped tracks, is lame beyond measure. sorry, that's my opinion.

why eat tofu if you can get a steak?

Ummmm...this takes the cake as the stupidest thing I've read this week. It IS only Monday though, so there's still plenty of time...

vinkalmann · Post by **vinkalmann** » Mon Jul 23, 2007 4:25 pm

register wrote:... why does this happen? never made a DJ set in live before, having a crack with a tight timescale. warping to beats, it just can't find the tempo for shit.
ass
Tom

Sounds like a warping issue to me. Keep practicing, it will all work itself out over time. Take a look at my warping guide if you think warping is in fact the issue www.vinkalmann.com in the tutorials section.

pixelbox · Post by **pixelbox** » Mon Jul 23, 2007 4:31 pm

It really isn't that difficult to find the proper bpm of any track in Live. You just have to have a little rhythm, and MAYBE a basic understanding of time signatures.

Load your track into Live and turn WARP off. Yep, you heard me. Turn it off. Now assign a key on your keyboard to be the tap button for your tempo. Play your track, and tap out the tempo. Do this three times, and write down the tempo you get for each time, rounding to the nearest whole number (so 113.78 will be 114 and 110.23 will be 110, etc.).

Average those numbers, turn warp back on, and use the result to set your song tempo.

Once you get good, you won't have to average, you can just do it with two taps.

If your warps are still off then you definitely are using the wrong time signature.

Oh and yes, Vink's tutorial above is great.

pixelbox · Post by **pixelbox** » Mon Jul 23, 2007 4:34 pm

Tarekith wrote:
tranqui wrote:live is NOT dj-software. get over it. if you want to dj, get a set if digital or analogue decks and a mixer. if you want to dj using a computer, get traktor.

using live for "djing", i.e. playing back pre-warped tracks, is lame beyond measure. sorry, that's my opinion.

why eat tofu if you can get a steak?
+1, Live DJs are sooo lame.

LOL! Don't hate on yourself so much Tarekith! We love you , man!

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