hello.my name is john and im a vst junkie

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hello.my name is john and im a vst junkie

Post by john gordon » Sat Aug 12, 2006 1:38 am

it wasnt a major problem when i used to just get all the cracks off limewire or wherever,but now that ive kicked that habbit i find myself always wanting to pull out my creditcard.is there some cure for this or do i have to cut the card up.i hate the internet cause it make things so accessible to you.i wouldnt drive to guitar center to buy a plugin. :cry: i need help......

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Post by hyerstay » Sat Aug 12, 2006 1:57 am

Start paying for upgrades year after year, and pretty soon you'll want to own the fewest amount of plugs to get the sounds you really use.

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Re: hello.my name is john and im a vst junkie

Post by stinky » Sat Aug 12, 2006 2:24 am

john gordon wrote:it wasnt a major problem when i used to just get all the cracks off limewire or wherever,but now that ive kicked that habbit i find myself always wanting to pull out my creditcard.is there some cure for this or do i have to cut the card up.i hate the internet cause it make things so accessible to you.i wouldnt drive to guitar center to buy a plugin. :cry: i need help......
spend your time looking for kickass free vsts.. you're bank account will thank you for it.. think of all the dosh you'll have left to donate to the fabulous programmers that write kickass code..
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Post by supster » Sat Aug 12, 2006 2:39 am

- find stuff you actually finish music you're happy with,

- work within your limitations and MAKE MUSIC

- stop chasing after the magic solution that will write it for you automatically, or some new toy that you'll never learn to use properly ..

and you will stop wanting more crap that will sit there and produce nothing

imo

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Post by stinky » Sat Aug 12, 2006 2:40 am

supster wrote:- find stuff you actually finish music you're happy with,

- work within your limitations and MAKE MUSIC

- you'll stop chasing after the magic solution that will write it for you automatically

and you will stop wanting more crap that will sit there and produce nothing

imo

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8O

Classic..
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Post by supster » Sat Aug 12, 2006 2:40 am

stinky wrote:
supster wrote:- find stuff you actually finish music you're happy with,

- work within your limitations and MAKE MUSIC

- you'll stop chasing after the magic solution that will write it for you automatically

and you will stop wanting more crap that will sit there and produce nothing

imo

.
8O

Classic..


well ... its true


right?

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Post by stinky » Sat Aug 12, 2006 2:45 am

supster wrote:
stinky wrote:
supster wrote:- find stuff you actually finish music you're happy with,

- work within your limitations and MAKE MUSIC

- you'll stop chasing after the magic solution that will write it for you automatically

and you will stop wanting more crap that will sit there and produce nothing

imo

.
8O

Classic..


well ... its true


right?

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Of course it's true.. In today's world, making music is not like being Ricky Bobby in the Indy 500 where you have to have the fastest, bestest, most expensive car, to win. There are tons of dope producers out there using free, or what others would consider shit ass plugs to make music. James Holden uses a ton of Buzz plugs. It's his mainstay, and he's raking in, and created his niche using free shit. It's the musician, stupid. <-- not calling anyone stupid here, it's a saying..
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Post by john gordon » Sat Aug 12, 2006 3:28 am

i will give you an example.i really want proper sidechaing.ok,well wavearts has it in their trackmaster.200 bucks!!!!wtf i have the macbook pro so its hard to find a compressor with the ability to sidechain.what do i do?i know what i want to do.that plugin also has a limiter which i dont have either....im going to do it.no yes no yes no yes no nononononono. :?

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Post by stinky » Sat Aug 12, 2006 3:34 am

Use the sidechain in Live's eq4 (yes, yes, you can make do...)...
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Post by supster » Sat Aug 12, 2006 3:40 am

john gordon wrote:i will give you an example.i really want proper sidechaing.
Slim Slow Slider Sidechain Compressor

http://www.geocities.jp/webmaster_of_sss/vst/#sidech

PRICE: Free


Simple, works great. Get it and make some music

200 bucks!!!!
No ... free.

3 things (IMO) that kill peoples productivity in this more than anything else

1 - Constantly lusting after new gear and not exploiting what you have

2 - Feeling you need to build every damn sound from the ground up and never use presets (total waste of time for the avg person)

3 - Spending all of your time on boards instead of concentrating and working hard to finish your projects


Im not giving you a hard time here, honestly trying to help. If you can conquer those three things you will be 10x ahead of a lot (definitely not all) of the regulars on this board ... ESPECIALLY this board

imo

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Re: hello.my name is john and im a vst junkie

Post by glu » Sat Aug 12, 2006 3:42 am

stinky wrote: spend your time looking for kickass free vsts.. you're bank account will thank you for it.. think of all the dosh you'll have left to donate to the fabulous programmers that write kickass code..
http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic ... sc&start=0

http://www.dontcrack.com/freeware/

THis has kept me from splurging $1000+ this summer...
no prevailing genre of music:
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Post by john gordon » Sat Aug 12, 2006 3:43 am

supster wrote:
john gordon wrote:i will give you an example.i really want proper sidechaing.
Slim Slow Slider Sidechain Compressor

http://www.geocities.jp/webmaster_of_sss/vst/#sidech

PRICE: Free


Simple, works great. Get it and make some music

200 bucks!!!!
No ... free.

3 things (IMO) that kill peoples productivity in this more than anything else

1 - Constantly lusting after new gear and not exploiting what you have

2 - Feeling you need to build every damn sound from the ground up and never use presets (total waste of time for the avg person)

3 - Spending all of your time on boards instead of concentrating and working hard to finish your projects


Im not giving you a hard time here, honestly trying to help. If you can conquer those three things you will be 10x ahead of a lot (definitely not all) of the regulars on this board ... ESPECIALLY this board

imo

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i will try that plug-in.thanks
im a culprit of #3 as well.

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Post by john gordon » Sat Aug 12, 2006 3:45 am

that free plugin is windows only.i need mac.universal binaries. oh well.

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Post by stinky » Sat Aug 12, 2006 3:53 am

john gordon wrote:that free plugin is windows only.i need mac.universal binaries. oh well.
there is no such thing as a free UB sidechain, although Sqook is supposedly working on one. Just use the Eq4 sidechain.. it works... there's nothing wrong with it. It's not the greatest, but it does it's job. Otherwise, use a poor man's sidechain and draw the ducking in..
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Post by rbmonosylabik » Sat Aug 12, 2006 4:34 am

This thread reminds me, I need to do some serious plug-in trashing
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