what we have all been waiting for... the macintel is here!

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detroitechno
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what we have all been waiting for... the macintel is here!

Post by detroitechno » Tue Jan 10, 2006 7:39 pm

MacBook Pro
http://www.apple.com/macbookpro/

Discuss!

My $0.02...

Pro's:
-OSX
-Powered firewire
-Dual Core
-back lit keyboard (I think)
-can run windows

Cons:
-Price!!! ouch. $2000 for the base model? Much overpriced, but that was probably expected.
-no 12" model or 17" 'yet'.
-only 2 usb ports
-no firewire 800

lets hear what you all think
A bunch of gear, cords, and a computer...

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Re: what we have all been waiting for... the macintel is here!

Post by kenn michael » Tue Jan 10, 2006 7:48 pm

I think it's priced pretty competitvely for once. DualCore high speed intel proc, etc... What are highend dual proc PC laptops going for these days?

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Post by djadonis206 » Tue Jan 10, 2006 7:56 pm

3 letters W o W

They have a intel Imac as well starting at $1299 -

Even though dual core isn't an option for us abes

alot of other programs utilize that dual core stuff - very very tempting

cool stuff

you can run windows?


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Post by err_fatale » Tue Jan 10, 2006 7:57 pm

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now we are seeing the beginning of the merging of "PC" and "MAC" platforms....it is inevitable since people have been running early versions of this OSX flawlessly on PC hardware...since it is designed to run on Intel chips.....this trend will only continue as far as I see it...which isn't a bad thing....it is pretty interesting.......

BTW is this THE SAME INTEL CORE as the DUO CENTRINO??? I believe from what I've read that it is....my question is......

if MAC and PC's are using the same (compatable) hardware......????????

now what????

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Post by jer_mcclain » Tue Jan 10, 2006 8:03 pm

the price doesn't seem to bad. remember that the core stuff is brand new and as such is expensive. look at the Gateway duo, similar specs and it's $1750. You add the graphics card and HD and it's the same price. The question now is if the MacBook pricing will come down as chip prices fall. I doubt it.
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Post by err_fatale » Tue Jan 10, 2006 8:05 pm

1.83GHz "Intel Core Duo" processor with 2MB shared L2 Cache

667MHz frontside bus

1GB (single SO-DIMM) 667MHz DDR2 SDRAM (PC2-5300)

100GB 5400rpm Serial ATA hard drive

Slot-load SuperDrive (DVD±RW/CD-RW)

ATI Mobility Radeon X1600 with 256MB GDDR3 memory

seems like the answer is yes.....so the new PC notebooks and thes MACs are the same speed, same hardware, except the PC's go up to 2.13 GHz and many with faster 7200 RPM Hard Drive....why can't I just buy one of those and buy MAC OSX and run it on a DUO CORE PC????????

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Post by err_fatale » Tue Jan 10, 2006 8:09 pm

DELL Inspiron 9400

Intel® Core™ Duo Processor T2500 (2GHz/667MHz FSB)

2GB Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM at 667MHz (2 Dimms)

100GB 7200RPM SATA Hard Drive

8x CD/DVD burner (DVD+/-RW) with double-layer DVD+R write capability

256MB NVIDA® GeForce™ Go 7800

almost identical the dell has a little more power offered and better hard rive speed.........why cant I run windows and OSX on either/or?????????

hmmmm

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Post by err_fatale » Tue Jan 10, 2006 8:18 pm

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there may be a hidden symbolic meaning to the name that we aren't seeing yet.......think about it...it's like a convergence of two point or cores into one....
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reflect on this for a moment....
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Post by markaugust » Tue Jan 10, 2006 8:19 pm

I saw the result of that dell 9400 with adam's live 5 performance test; the dualcore definetely does something with live 5 though;
the guy had 10%!!!
check last page of the test

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Post by djadonis206 » Tue Jan 10, 2006 8:20 pm

paraclude wrote:The question now is if the MacBook pricing will come down as chip prices fall. I doubt it.
Good point - it seems there's still alot of PC users in the world and they sort of determine what they'll pay for so the manufacturers will follow suite - prices will fall, yes

Apple has it's own niche following of customers and they determine what their customers will pay - there's only one apple so it's either our way or the highway


there's a million gateways, compaqs etc - hell you could build your own pc


So, just answering that question makes me want to stay out of the loop you get stuck in with Apple - great computers, awesome computers

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Post by buzzcock » Tue Jan 10, 2006 8:40 pm

markaugust wrote:I saw the result of that dell 9400 with adam's live 5 performance test; the dualcore definetely does something with live 5 though;
the guy had 10%!!!
check last page of the test
Actually 20%... still good though. but you wont see that on the mac version until Live is a universal binary. :roll: C'mon Abes! Step up! :P
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Post by markaugust » Tue Jan 10, 2006 8:44 pm

o...ok....
did not see his mistake yet; see it now.
the gearfreak in me allready got nervous while i am on 25%
:oops:
terrible behaviour, I know....

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Post by nicka » Tue Jan 10, 2006 8:56 pm

so is the 1.67Ghz the spped of both the processors together or each meaing it runs at 3.34Ghz???
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Post by rpsx » Tue Jan 10, 2006 9:09 pm

so, any other hammerfall dsp users a bit less excited? no pcmcia. figured, okay, i'll go for the fireface 800... of course, no FW800 either. oops... guess they didn't mean pro music with that pro label there. maybe on the next one?

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Post by kenn michael » Tue Jan 10, 2006 9:14 pm

I run my Fireface800 with FW 400 - no problems.

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