Another beta: Live 4.1.1b4! Final 4.1.1 comes next week!

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Alex
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Another beta: Live 4.1.1b4! Final 4.1.1 comes next week!

Post by Alex » Fri Mar 04, 2005 2:58 pm

Hi folks,

We have just uploaded a new beta version of the upcoming Live bug fix update.

We decided to make this "some kind" of public beta, but with very reduced
support from our side. That means, please send your Live 4.1.4 beta feedback ONLY to beta@ableton.com.


Please do not post feedback in the forum or send to our support.
Please do not send general Live questions or feature wishes.


Mac OS X: http://www.ableton.com/_common/download ... e411b4.sit
Mac Os 9: http://www.ableton.com/_common/download ... e411b4.hqx

Windows: http://www.ableton.com/_common/download ... e411b4.zip


Current version: Live 4.1.1b4



Limitations:
- a Live 4 serial is needed to unlock
- will run only until 8h March
- does not contain Manuals
- does not contain Starter Sets
- the Windows version does contain some additional debug code to create crash logs.
Therefore the version is about 10% to 20% slower as the final release version.


thanks and regards,
Alex




===============================================================================
The list of bug fixes and improvements from Live 4.1.1b3 to Live 4.1.1b4:
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[01] Bug: Crating breakpoints on clip enevelopes

Platform: All

Trying to create a breakpoint on a clip's envelope while completely
zoomed-in would cause the mouse cursor to jump to the right corner
of the envelope view.

Status: Fixed



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[02] Bug: VST WavesShell 5.x

Platform: OS X

VST WavesShell 5.x crashed while scanning.

Status: Fixed



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[03] Improvement: Improved VST Shell Scanning

Platform: All

VST WavesShell 5.x is scanned faster.



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[04] Improvement: Preferences Product Page

Platform: All

Some more layout and language corrections.





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The list of bug fixes and improvements from Live 4.1.1b2 to Live 4.1.1b3:
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[01] Improvement: Default 'Groove' setting

Platform: All

MIDI clips created within Live will now overtake the current global 'Groove'
setting from the preferences.



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[02] Improvement: Preferences Product Page

Platform: All

Several layout and language corrections.




===============================================================================
The list of bug fixes and improvements from Live 4.1.1b1 to Live 4.1.1b2:
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===============================================================================


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[01] Bug: Rendering/Consolidate Ping Pong Delay

Platform: All

Under certain Live would not render correctly tracks containing the
Ping Pong Delay effect because a wrong feedback value.


Status: Fixed



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[02] Bug: Random crash when recording with 96kHz

Platform: All

Under very rare conditions Live would crash when recording with 96kHz for
longer periods of time.

Status: Fixed



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[03] Bug: Recording/Consolidate in ReWire slave mode

Platform: All

Running as ReWire slave Live would not recognizing the host
sample rate on recording and consolidation.


Status: Fixed



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[04] Bug: Operator: Global time

Platform: All

Because of a wrong initialization Operator's Global Time parameter could behave
not correctly.

Status: Fixed



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[05] Bug: Save of detail view state

Platform: All

Live would not save correctly the open/closed state of the detail view
(track vs. clip view) in the song.

Status: Fixed







===============================================================================
The list of bug fixes and improvements from Live 4.1 to Live 4.1.1b1:
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[01] Bug: Keys and mouse clicks on OS X

Platform: OS X

There was a noticeable delay when using computer keys or clicking with
the mouse on OS X. This bug was responsible for some other strange behavior
such as inaccuracies in Tap-Tempo.


Status: Fixed



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[02] Bug: Crash for special keys on a japanese system

Platform: All

Live would crash when typing certain characters (such as German
umlauts) on a Japanese system.

Status: Fixed



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[03] Bug: Crash with VST side chain Plug-ins

Platform: All

Live would crash when trying to use a VST plug-in with a side chain (for instance
Voxengo crunchessor).

Status: Fixed



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[04] Bug: Moving warped playing clips

Platform: All

This fixes the bug that a warped playing session clip, when moved to another
slot while it is playing, would playback at the wrong position.

Status: Fixed



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[05] Bug: AutoFilter quantize

Platform: All

Depending on quantize and arranger loop settings AutoFilter's quantize
did not work right.


Status: Fixed



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[06] Bug: Latency compensation field

Platform: All

There was an rounding problem with the latency compensation field in the
audio preferences.

Status: Fixed



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[07] Bug: ReWire with Reason

Platform: All


Sometimes Live would send a MIDI event with a wrong time stamp to
Propellerhead's Reason.

Status: Fixed



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[08] Bug: Operator parameter modulation


Platform: All

There was a problem with some MIDI controlled parameters producing
non rounded values. This is fixed so that it is now possible to MIDI control
these parameters correctly.

Due to this fix, some Operator envelopes from Live 4.1 may not
be transferred correctly. Sorry for the inconvenience.

Here is the list of parameters we had to change:

-envelope repeat time
-envelope time velocity scale
-pitch env attack level
-pitch env decay level
-pitch env sustain level
-osc coarse
-osc fine
-fixed frequency multiplicator
-osc phase
-osc velocity scale
-osc key scale
-osc d feedback
-envelope time
-envelope key time scale
-filter frequency velocity scale
-filter frequency key scale
-filter frequency envelope amount
-panorama key scale
-panorama random scale
-spread
-transpose
-pitch bend range


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[09] Bug: Startup Crash on OS X 10.4

Platform: OS X 10.4

Live 4.1 would crash when starting on Mac OS X 10.4.

Status: Fixed





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[10] Improvements: Operator hide

Platform: All

It is now possible to hide Operator. You can do this in the Products section
of Live's preferences. If hidden, Operator is not visible in the instrument
browser and the Operator Lessons are not accessible via the Help menu.
Furthermore, if you load a song containing Operator while it is hidden,
you can load the song but the contained Operator will be disabled.



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[11] Improvement: Edirol Orchestra plug-in

Platform: All

Better support for the Edirol Orchestra plug-in.



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[12] Improvements: Lesson view screen resolution

Platform: All

We removed the screen resolution restrictions for the Lesson view.
Therefore the Lesson view should be visible on all screen resolutions.





Link to the annoucement of Live 4.1.1b3:
http://www.ableton.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=17327


Link to the annoucement of Live 4.1.1b2:
http://www.ableton.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=17212


Link to the annoucement of Live 4.1.1b1:
http://www.ableton.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=17121
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Post by sweetjesus » Fri Mar 04, 2005 7:51 pm

Would Ableton like to comment on how the copy protection will change for the demo mode of the software and operator and how it could impact new users?

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Post by AdamJay » Fri Mar 04, 2005 9:48 pm

can't wait for the final release.
Waves 5 Morphoder became vital to me on PC, will be good to use in OSX.

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Post by supster » Sat Mar 05, 2005 9:16 pm

Bug: Crash with VST side chain Plug-ins

Hmm wondering if this means - all other things being ok - that Live will now support true VST sidechaining (ducking etc)? Sounds like it *fingers crossed*
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Post by Martyn » Sat Mar 05, 2005 10:18 pm

supster wrote:
Bug: Crash with VST side chain Plug-ins

Hmm wondering if this means - all other things being ok - that Live will now support true VST sidechaining (ducking etc)? Sounds like it *fingers crossed*
Yes, they seem to be working fine now. Personally, I've only tested the Slim Slow Slider sidechainers, but they were both crashing 4.1 before. I've been deleting and dragging both audio and midi channels that have sidechains connected, everything seems pretty good so far. 8)

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Post by Amberience » Sun Mar 06, 2005 4:37 pm

Hopefully Voxengo Crunchessor will work fine now!! :D :D :D

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