Is there a Phase Meter Plug-in for Live?
Is there a Phase Meter Plug-in for Live?
I use live 6 and wanted to see if there is a phase meter plug in that someone would be able to recommend. Not sure if Live 7 has a phase meter with it or not.
Re: Is there a Phase Meter Plug-in for Live?
sadly - not
+1 for the request...
+1 for the request...
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http://www.fluxhome.com/products/Freewa ... otool.htmlmattstan wrote:I use live 6 and wanted to see if there is a phase meter plug in that someone would be able to recommend.
hth
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Great tip!
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thanks nod
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Hello all,
Can anyone explain exactly what the heck i'm looking at when i pop one of these bad boys on a track?
What should i be looking for? How do i increase stereo spread with a phase analyzer?
Also, when checking a mono track for phase issues, what should i be looking for in the display?
FYI there was no manual for the phase meter on the flux site, thus the question!
Thanks
Can anyone explain exactly what the heck i'm looking at when i pop one of these bad boys on a track?
What should i be looking for? How do i increase stereo spread with a phase analyzer?
Also, when checking a mono track for phase issues, what should i be looking for in the display?
FYI there was no manual for the phase meter on the flux site, thus the question!
Thanks
Stuffs.
Re: Is there a Phase Meter Plug-in for Live?
Now my friend,that's one of the biggest secrets in mixing though i wouldn't recommend you any analyzersassessingaccess wrote:How do i increase stereo spread with a phase analyzer?
for stereo spread...
It's all about the sound design and mixing so try to experiment there
My 2 cents
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Re: Is there a Phase Meter Plug-in for Live?
7G wrote:Now my friend,that's one of the biggest secrets in mixing though i wouldn't recommend you any analyzersassessingaccess wrote:How do i increase stereo spread with a phase analyzer?
for stereo spread...
It's all about the sound design and mixing so try to experiment there
My 2 cents
I just don't know what the heck I'm looking at, that's all.
Stuffs.
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I love you manNod wrote:http://www.fluxhome.com/products/Freewa ... otool.htmlmattstan wrote:I use live 6 and wanted to see if there is a phase meter plug in that someone would be able to recommend.
hth
Re: Is there a Phase Meter Plug-in for Live?
assessingaccess wrote:Hello all,
Can anyone explain exactly what the heck i'm looking at when i pop one of these bad boys on a track?
What should i be looking for? How do i increase stereo spread with a phase analyzer?
Also, when checking a mono track for phase issues, what should i be looking for in the display?
FYI there was no manual for the phase meter on the flux site, thus the question!
Thanks
+1
put an operator before it ...start with a simple mono sine...and see what you see...
then start to experiment...
I think analyzers help a lot when learning...and they're a great tool..
but I recommend you listen before you look...
phase is usually an issue with 2 audio sources... where some/all of source A's freqs 'collide' with some/all of source B's freqs...
(ex:it could be more than 1 mic recording an audio source and not spaced far enough from each other
/ a mic near a reflective surface where the audio signal bounces off the glass back to the mic slightly delayed from the main signal .
/ a sound of the pick on a string on a guitar track taking up the some freqs from the Percussion track
)
this causes said freqs volume to get raised/decrease/canceled uncontrollably
if already recorded...there's not much you can do to get rid of it...
only try and cover it up...or mute affected freqs (almost always impossible)
when mixing several tracks to stereo or recording more than 1 mic...
is the time to take care of phase issues and it's good to train you EARS to pick up when there's phasing.
and some background about the physical aspect of audio is needed..
also..how to effectively use eqs/compressors/expanders/a mixer
Re: Is there a Phase Meter Plug-in for Live?
(In addition to 3dot's excellent examples above) - don't head straight for, in terms of phase measurement, the big circular dowhatsit/goniometer unless you know how to read one. Look underneath for the actual correlation meter in simpler form. Basically put it's telling you if two channels sum together to be exactly identical mono (+1), uniquely different stereo = 0, or exactly opposite polarity inverted mono (-1). If your mix, or audio file, tends toward the -1 value then you've likely got some issues. However it doesn't tell you much about actual problematic frequency content, except that if the overall sum reads somewhere between 0 and -1 then the signals must be cancelling each other out at some frequencies (if not all), but you'll need a better measurement tool to find out where.assessingaccess wrote:Can anyone explain exactly what the heck i'm looking at when i pop one of these bad boys on a track?
You wouldn't normally on such a tool but the Flux has a 'width' control you can adjust - another option is M/S processing (personally I find it far more useful than just a simple 'widener').What should i be looking for? How do i increase stereo spread with a phase analyzer?
If it's purely mono then, iirc so someone correct me if wrong, your dealing with polarity rather than phase. If however it's a stereo file that's been folded down to mono then there could be issues as the waveforms cancel out at certain points and frequencies - again check the meters with the figures quoted above. By all means have some funky drops whizzing round the speakers on your entire mix that occasionally hit -1 as a freak occurrence but, on the main, you want to be sitting pretty between 0 or 1. To be honest the whole issue is, as 3dot outlined, something that is primarily a concern when recording/mixing acoustically with mics - examples would be wanting to lock the phases of overhead mics or blending different source mics on a guitar cab. However that's not to say that, imho, some grounding in old skool theory isn't useful or applicable in a modern DAW world - use your ears and not the screen for startersAlso, when checking a mono track for phase issues, what should i be looking for in the display?
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No probs mate. If you liked that recommendation check out the other freebie Flux as well: a rather nice transient designer to give yer beats more attack or smooth 'em out - useful either side of a comp and beats paying for an SPL hardware box any day...Zygi wrote:I love you man
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freebies do rock <3 (btw check out puremagnetiks free live packs)
i also have waves PAZ, but im trying to get rid of warez
Btw, when should I worry? Everything seems ok when i don't have bass or kick enabled, but when I enable the tracks, everything comes close to mono... You'll probably say - use your ears?
i also have waves PAZ, but im trying to get rid of warez
Btw, when should I worry? Everything seems ok when i don't have bass or kick enabled, but when I enable the tracks, everything comes close to mono... You'll probably say - use your ears?