Price deal for Noatikl generative software

Liam · Post by **Liam** » Fri Jun 06, 2008 10:52 pm

Over at Intermorphic they are doing a Summer deal for all versions of Noatikl.

I know many Live gurus could do much of what it does (maybe not) but this software (and vsti) does do a great job of opening up ideas.

Its $119 for both vsti and standalone version. Windows or Mac (not both).

Try the demo and see what it can do with Live.

Homebelly · Post by **Homebelly** » Sat Jun 07, 2008 3:40 am

Are you using this software??
I've been kinda sorta interested for a while but don't want to join yet another forum just ask a bunch of questions..

If you are using it what are the advantages of using the plugin over using the standalone other than recall??
How are you using it with live??
Is it possible to set notikl up with live so that it can trigger scenes??

I've down loaded the demo so i'll probably be able to answer these questions on my own soon enough, but it would be cool to get some out side feed back.

Cheers....

Liam · Post by **Liam** » Sat Jun 07, 2008 3:52 am

I'm using the program as I bought it today.

I had some files I tried with my Korg M3 when I had the demo version.

Just 16 part midi stuff.

Some interesting results.

The program can record a midi file from your efforts. That could be exported. Not sure if that's available with the vst plugin - might just be for the standalone. That would make sense.

I use mainly the vst version with Live.

It has a scripting feature too though I doubt I have the patience to learn how to use that fully.

Not sure it can trigger scenes but there are probably other ways to achieve that. Tried a forum search for that trick?

As the price is now much more reasonable I think its worth exploring the program. It offers great potential for tinkering.

Liam · Post by **Liam** » Sat Jun 07, 2008 4:16 am

Homebelly wrote:Are you using this software??
I've been kinda sorta interested for a while but don't want to join yet another forum just ask a bunch of questions..

If you are using it what are the advantages of using the plugin over using the standalone other than recall??
How are you using it with live??
Is it possible to set notikl up with live so that it can trigger scenes??

I've down loaded the demo so i'll probably be able to answer these questions on my own soon enough, but it would be cool to get some out side feed back.

Cheers....

Have you tried the Tutorials There are links to many interesting ones.

You can send midi notes to cc BTW

See:

http://www.vimeo.com/432045

Lo-Fi Massahkah · Post by **Lo-Fi Massahkah** » Sat Jun 07, 2008 9:29 am

Noatikl is probably more versatile, but for immidiate hands-on results in a wink I recommend:

http://www.csse.monash.edu.au/~cema/nodal/ (OSX only)

.m

Liam · Post by **Liam** » Sat Jun 07, 2008 12:23 pm

OSX is useless to me as I do not own a Mac and doubt I ever will.

Lo-Fi Massahkah · Post by **Lo-Fi Massahkah** » Sat Jun 07, 2008 12:29 pm

Liam wrote:OSX is useless to me as I do not own a Mac and doubt I ever will.

OK. Thanks for sharing.

.m

Homebelly · Post by **Homebelly** » Sat Jun 07, 2008 12:46 pm

Liam wrote:OSX is useless to me as I do not own a Mac and doubt I ever will.

Here..
this should help put it all into perspective..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfZItov1 ... re=related

Nod · Post by **Nod** » Sat Jun 07, 2008 4:56 pm

Liam wrote:OSX is useless to me as I do not own a Mac and doubt I ever will.

Check this out Liam;

http://www.nicolasfournel.com/blip.htm

The guy also has some other cool stuff on his site - but Blip, once you get your head round it, can do all kinds of interesting things.

oblique strategies · Post by **oblique strategies** » Sat Jun 07, 2008 9:03 pm

Homebelly wrote: If you are using it what are the advantages of using the plugin over using the standalone other than recall??
How are you using it with live??
Is it possible to set notikl up with live so that it can trigger scenes??

I've down loaded the demo so i'll probably be able to answer these questions on my own soon enough, but it would be cool to get some out side feed back.

Cheers....

Question for Liam & Homebelly:

I've been interested in this software for a while now.

Have either of you determined what the advantages of using either the plugin or the the standalone are? Which would you recommend using & why?

Thanks

Liam · Post by **Liam** » Sat Jun 07, 2008 11:13 pm

I have barely used this software, yet.

Right now I'm trying to fathom the VG99 as well as the Korg M3.

However, I really think that its best used within Live as a plugin but you can do a great deal with the standalone.

I don't think there is a best way.

You can create straight patterns with it (like with some drums) as well as ever changing patterns.

When you delve into the various options you see how powerful the whole concept is.

Liam · Post by **Liam** » Sat Jun 07, 2008 11:20 pm

Nod wrote:
Liam wrote:OSX is useless to me as I do not own a Mac and doubt I ever will.
Check this out Liam;

http://www.nicolasfournel.com/blip.htm

The guy also has some other cool stuff on his site - but Blip, once you get your head round it, can do all kinds of interesting things.

I'm having a quick look at it now but can't see how to assign midi ports etc

Reading the manual but still can't see the info I need...Yes, I see it now. Click on the Kit icon down the bottom of the screen then click on the name of the slot and load your own wave file (sample)

His site does have a lot of other interesting software for free too.

Nod · Post by **Nod** » Sat Jun 07, 2008 11:32 pm

Liam wrote:I'm having a quick look at it now but can't see how to assign midi ports etc Reading the manual but still can't see the info I need...Yes, I see it now. Click on the Kit icon down the bottom of the screen then click on the name of the slot and load your own wave file (sample)

Config dialogue is two icons to the right of the 'Kits' - select your Midi in and choose controllers for various parameters including program change.

Note I'm not suggesting that this is in any way a replacement, or better than, Noatikl. It's an interesting experiment still in development - but, along with cellular automation, allows for some quick & dirty mad re-sequencing & can export both MIDI and audio for use in other projects. Other 'noizeboxes' you might find interesting:

http://www.servovalve.org/machines/index.html
http://www.soundborb.com/

Liam · Post by **Liam** » Sun Jun 08, 2008 2:03 am

I really like the quick changes you can apply to the overall part shapes etc Kinda like the Operator operators!

rasputin · Post by **rasputin** » Mon Jun 09, 2008 9:58 pm

That's cool to learn about that here. As an old time Koan user I was intrigued by it. But I let the demo expire as I was not in the position to buy at the time.

Now with these discounts I am interested again.

Some notes I took earlier this year when I tried the demo are here:

http://csound.wordpress.com/2008/02/14/ ... y-noatikl/