Live 11 M2 performance
Live 11 M2 performance
Hi guys,
I am running live 11.2.11 both on a 2019 macbook pro (2,4 GHz 8-Core Intel Core i9 32 mb) and on a 2018 mac mini (3,2 GHz 6-Core Intel Core i7 64 mb) and I am noticing that with my current sessions (lots of "live" tracks and vsts) the better specced macbook is barely powerful enough for my live work with smallish buffer sizes and and the mac mini on which I work at home on arrangements hangs by a thread around 70% cpu load even with large buffer sizes. (both machines are on monterey)
I am considering switching to the new mac mini M2 for my home setup (which will necessarily come with ventura), do any of you have real life experience about the gains in performance and stability over the intel machines with live?
I plan on keeping the intel macbook pro for a while, and I need to go back and forth with the same sessions running on both machines, would that be problematic?
Thanks in advance,
F.
I am running live 11.2.11 both on a 2019 macbook pro (2,4 GHz 8-Core Intel Core i9 32 mb) and on a 2018 mac mini (3,2 GHz 6-Core Intel Core i7 64 mb) and I am noticing that with my current sessions (lots of "live" tracks and vsts) the better specced macbook is barely powerful enough for my live work with smallish buffer sizes and and the mac mini on which I work at home on arrangements hangs by a thread around 70% cpu load even with large buffer sizes. (both machines are on monterey)
I am considering switching to the new mac mini M2 for my home setup (which will necessarily come with ventura), do any of you have real life experience about the gains in performance and stability over the intel machines with live?
I plan on keeping the intel macbook pro for a while, and I need to go back and forth with the same sessions running on both machines, would that be problematic?
Thanks in advance,
F.
Re: Live 11 M2 performance
Those silicon machines are unkillable (if that's a word)!
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Re: Live 11 M2 performance
Thanks! But what do you mean by unkillable?
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Re: Live 11 M2 performance
...e.g.: they perform best when the buffer size is set to 128 samples or less...setting the buffer size higher lets them de-activate the performance cores...
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Re: Live 11 M2 performance
The M2 machine will be orders of magnitude faster and run cooler than the intel MBP you have, it’s literally one of the biggest jumps in computer power you’ll likely ever experience. Switching back and forth between the mini and MBP should be fine as long as you keep both at parity in terms of OS and Ableton updates.
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That's the thing, I read that installing ventura on my 2019 2,4 GHz 8-Core Intel Core i9 is likely to slow it down when it is just about powerful enough to handle the workload for my "live" Live sessions. I was kind of hoping to be able to keep it under monterey which has been working fine so far, I really dont want to upgrade both machines at the same time if I can.[erm] wrote: ↑Mon Mar 27, 2023 2:24 pmThe M2 machine will be orders of magnitude faster and run cooler than the intel MBP you have, it’s literally one of the biggest jumps in computer power you’ll likely ever experience. Switching back and forth between the mini and MBP should be fine as long as you keep both at parity in terms of OS and Ableton updates.
what do you think?
Re: Live 11 M2 performance
It might be doable, but I personally wouldn’t want to chance it that way. I had that same 2019 MBP and I can’t see how it would run worse under Ventura myself, but I haven’t it either since getting my M1 MBP.
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Re: Live 11 M2 performance
He guys
I have new m2 mini 12 c 32 gb 1 tb
Ventura osx installed
Ableton 11.2.11
New rme fireface 802
Loaded 21 tracks ableton stock plugins only clean fresh installed
48/128 48/256. Random clicks, cpu , spikes
Also when i for example resize (stretch) my audio loop its crackling thunder !
When i confront support with this and send videos of it they dont reply anymore ;(
Any solutions?
I have new m2 mini 12 c 32 gb 1 tb
Ventura osx installed
Ableton 11.2.11
New rme fireface 802
Loaded 21 tracks ableton stock plugins only clean fresh installed
48/128 48/256. Random clicks, cpu , spikes
Also when i for example resize (stretch) my audio loop its crackling thunder !
When i confront support with this and send videos of it they dont reply anymore ;(
Any solutions?
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Re: Live 11 M2 performance
@muraco mato, do you have the same issues using the Mac’s audio hardware instead of the RME?
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Re: Live 11 M2 performance
Just to be sure... did you install the latest and correct RME drivers?muraco mato wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 12:59 amHe guys
I have new m2 mini 12 c 32 gb 1 tb
Ventura osx installed
Ableton 11.2.11
New rme fireface 802
Loaded 21 tracks ableton stock plugins only clean fresh installed
48/128 48/256. Random clicks, cpu , spikes
Also when i for example resize (stretch) my audio loop its crackling thunder !
When i confront support with this and send videos of it they dont reply anymore ;(
Any solutions?
Mac Studio M2 Max and MacBook Pro M1
Genelec M030; Live 11.3.x and Live 12; macOS Sonoma
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Genelec M030; Live 11.3.x and Live 12; macOS Sonoma
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Re: Live 11 M2 performance
Cids and pitch black
Yes and yes
The owner of rme told me wich and how to install the correct drivers
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Yes and yes
The owner of rme told me wich and how to install the correct drivers
Regards
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Re: Live 11 M2 performance
That is weird.
Can you try this: delete one track at a time from your live set and see if the problems clear up at any point. Does bringing it down to, say, 12 tracks have any change/improvement? Is there any single track that causes the issue?
It's hard to say... since you're only using Ableton native devices you would really expect things to be smooth.
Could you please post screenshots of Live's audio and MIDI preferences?
Hope this is some small help!
Can you try this: delete one track at a time from your live set and see if the problems clear up at any point. Does bringing it down to, say, 12 tracks have any change/improvement? Is there any single track that causes the issue?
It's hard to say... since you're only using Ableton native devices you would really expect things to be smooth.
Could you please post screenshots of Live's audio and MIDI preferences?
Hope this is some small help!
MBP M1Max | Sonoma 14.5 | Live 12.0.1 | Babyface Pro FS | Push 3T | A clump of controllers
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Re: Live 11 M2 performance
@muraco
Are you sure Live isn't set to Rosetta mode? It shouldn't do it by itself, but it's still worth checking.
Select the app in Finder, and cmd+i to open its info window. Here you'll see an option to run it in Rosetta mode.
Are you sure Live isn't set to Rosetta mode? It shouldn't do it by itself, but it's still worth checking.
Select the app in Finder, and cmd+i to open its info window. Here you'll see an option to run it in Rosetta mode.
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Re: Live 11 M2 performance
Hey jur
no its clean installed with not rosetta
regards