Live-Looper-"Play"-Button- not listet as Parameter

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Live-Looper-"Play"-Button- not listet as Parameter

Post by phattline » Fri Oct 25, 2013 5:28 pm

Hey.
(german below)

I want to remote the Live-Looper...but not with Midi... with OSC

ok no problem - get in the api, get the "LiveLooper"-Device get some path, get some Parameters> here we ARE:
Device ON
State
Feedback
Reverse
Monitor
Speed
Quanitzsation
Song Control
Tempo Control

OH SHIT! NO PLAY BUTTON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ARE YOU KIDDIN ME - THE MOST IMPORTEND SWITCH! FORGOTTEN?!
Also Left: Length*/, Record-Bars and so on
These Left Buttons are also not Macromapable- this is somewhat of fail, that cant be a fail this is be done in full consciousness - so why you havent done this/done this!?


Fix this - thanx!+


austrian:
Oiso es geht um des:
Ich will mit Softstep 4 Looper auf 4 verschiedenen Spuren steueren.Da ich mit Remotescripts nicht sehr viel am Hut hab,
geh ich also über UDP-local-host - von einer Max instance ins Ableton-M4L rein (weil ich ja windows nutze-und dafür bestraft werde)...
Von dort empfange ich die Daten vom lokalen Port, verarbeite sie uns steuer dann via Live-Api den Looper....
Es kann damit verschiedene Parameter Steuern, aber nicht den wichtigsten - den Play/REC-Button!
Den kann ich wundersamer weise nur mit Midimaping belegen--- und ab da wirds fad, da im Windows ein Midiport auf ein Program gebunden ist, und ich Softstep schon als Max-standalone instanz am Laufen habe (weil nur Sysex komunizieren...da ableton bekannt nix sysex...) jetzt müsst ich wieder midiyoke verwenden um den PLAY Button zu midifizieren...

softstep is a schaas a kompletter, launchpad und ois andere im Moment auch - oh holy cow diese instrumente wurden so gebaut das sie uns einfach nur aufhalten - würden die schnittstellen der Controller so programiert das sie "keine Mautstellen/Grenzen/Tempo-Hügel/SlangIsolierer" sind hätte man vieleicht sogar freude damit herumzuprogrammieren > Zeitdiebe! DIESE SCH :evil: workarounds hier! immer wieder > Mi feit des scho so au ---- bitte fixt des mit dem PLAY Button damit der endlich per M4L-remote gesteuert werden kann - DANKE

ih glaub ich schreib euch ab jetzt öfters auf eiche bugs aun - ich kann ja nur hoffen das hier hiergendwer zuhört der dinge richten kann, bzw das da einer ist der lieber Bug-fixt als Neue Features aquieriert...

So das musste raus, kann jetzt leicht sein das sich wer angegriffen fühlt, wenns so ist? dann nehmt das aus Kritik - ich entschuldige mich hiermit und gleichzeitig vergeb ich euch den Zeitdiebstahl den ihr an mir begangen habt weil ich steh auf live.

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MAX 6.1.3 64Bit (Standalone und M4L seits es gibt)

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Re: Live-Looper-"Play"-Button- not listet as Parameter

Post by S4racen » Fri Oct 25, 2013 7:01 pm

The Play button is controlled by the State no?

Cheers
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Re: Live-Looper-"Play"-Button- not listet as Parameter

Post by phatline » Fri Oct 25, 2013 7:30 pm

YES/NO!

By sending a 0 to remote "state" the global Transport Stops!
By sending a 127 to remote "state" nothing happens - Glopal Transport @Stop, Looper @stop....

AND these since 2011 Lost-Buttons arent grayed out > they are not controlled by MAX!!! THEY CANT!
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Re: Live-Looper-"Play"-Button- not listet as Parameter

Post by mothergarage » Fri Oct 25, 2013 7:52 pm

I don't know if this helps you anything:

state=0-42 stops the looper
state=43-84 records
state=85-126 plays(if global play is on?)
state=127 overdubs

trink a wieselburger, dann geht's wieder besser ;)

Edit: Maybe check this device?!
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Re: Live-Looper-"Play"-Button- not listet as Parameter

Post by phatline » Fri Oct 25, 2013 9:36 pm

Your Values do nothing @all - only 0 (zero, null nüsse) stops the Global-Transport
Would be perfect if the values do anything... but since the PLAY-Button (the Big+ or PLAY) is not Controlled by Max > it is not gray > I can Midify it >

NA-DA - i trink kan alk mehr...

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Re: Live-Looper-"Play"-Button- not listet as Parameter

Post by mothergarage » Fri Oct 25, 2013 10:20 pm

Well, I can map those small icons (play, overdub,rec, stop) above the big play button to my MultiMapper16 device (see m4l in signature). Then when I turn the dial the four states are triggerd according to the numbers above. So they should be exposed to max? My knowledge in max is very limited so...
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Re: Live-Looper-"Play"-Button- not listet as Parameter

Post by phatline » Fri Oct 25, 2013 10:54 pm

yes with your macro-router-thing I can switch thru the states... I dont understand why I cant do that... I will take your code...

ok - state is a workaround for the missing play button :idea:

what I still miss for Midi or Max is the "Loop cycle" status - to show me on the Midicontroller where Iám

in the time between I had done a completley other workaround - midiyoke and max stanalone...
that brings me to the next problem---the play button dont send midi (it only receives) because of beeing a "pedal"
the state buttons in midimap also dont transmit mididate... oh... so then waste the new Programm go in M4L again
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Re: Live-Looper-"Play"-Button- not listet as Parameter

Post by regretfullySaid » Fri Oct 25, 2013 11:31 pm

If you're usig max to switch the state then i doubt 127 would do anything..
Most switches are 1 for on and 0 for off, so did you try "set value 1" for the state id?
Live might need to be playing also.
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