Application Memory problem since updating to Live 12

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whitemike
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Application Memory problem since updating to Live 12

Post by whitemike » Sat Mar 16, 2024 10:15 am

hey hey!
So I have a problem that i've come across since upgrading to live 12.
Pretty much I started a project yesterday night and later that night my macbook gave me an error saying "your system has run out of application memory". So I have to choose to force quite which application is using the most (Which is Ableton running at about 130gb)
i'm not very knowledgable when it comes to this side of computers but from what i've seen from looking online is that thats a pretty high number.

So i've opened activity monitor and watched Ableton. The thing is is that when i open the project and do nothing, its fine for about 30-45minutes (Ableton memory usage is sitting around 1-4gb) and then it just randomly ramps up to the high 100gb's even after doing nothing.
i've frozen majority of tracks using plugins and this still has no difference. I also switched off the plugins that I last added thinking they might of had some kind of affect on the project.
My macbook specs are 2019 macbook pro running 16gb ram with 500gb storage. I have about 50gb storage remaining but i've had less in the past with Ableton 11 and have run larger projects then what i'm doing now with ease.
Ive also just started using an external ssd to store some of my sample library, although unlikely just stating whats new to maybe get a helpful glimpse to anything that might be causing this.
Ive reinstalled live 12, updated my OS software to a more recent version of bigsur, checked to see if any plugins being used need updating and have waited for Ableton to completely scan my sample library and external ssd library before continuing.

Just wondering if anyone might be able to point me in a direction or if anyone else has experienced this before as i'm a little lost at the moment. apologies in advance if this is a computer problem and not related to Ableton but I haven't run into this problem before, only after the upgrade. Image

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Re: Application Memory problem since updating to Live 12

Post by chapelier fou » Sat Mar 16, 2024 11:07 am

Any max for live devices in your set ?
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Re: Application Memory problem since updating to Live 12

Post by whitemike » Sat Mar 16, 2024 12:01 pm

chapelier fou wrote:
Sat Mar 16, 2024 11:07 am
Any max for live devices in your set ?
I have Granulator III running!

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Re: Application Memory problem since updating to Live 12

Post by Tarekith » Sat Mar 16, 2024 2:22 pm

Does it still happen with granulator 3 removed from the set?

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Re: Application Memory problem since updating to Live 12

Post by whitemike » Sat Mar 16, 2024 3:11 pm

Tarekith wrote:
Sat Mar 16, 2024 2:22 pm
Does it still happen with granulator 3 removed from the set?
Just gave it a test run then. Removed all granulator devices and around the 30-45min mark the memory usage spiked up and I had the "your system has run out of application memory" warning pop up again.
I'll remove each plugin one by one and see if anything comes from that.

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Re: Application Memory problem since updating to Live 12

Post by chapelier fou » Sat Mar 16, 2024 5:17 pm

What if you remove the granulators, save as a new set, close Live, open the new set ?
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Re: Application Memory problem since updating to Live 12

Post by whitemike » Sun Mar 17, 2024 4:54 am

Just did all that and unfortunately no success. Removed all max 4 live devices and froze every other track using plugins (im using massive) and the problem still persists.

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Re: Application Memory problem since updating to Live 12

Post by chapelier fou » Sun Mar 17, 2024 6:26 am

Contact support if you didn’t already…
Sorry I can’t be of any help.
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Re: Application Memory problem since updating to Live 12

Post by djpinigai » Mon Mar 18, 2024 9:36 am

Same thing happening for me since beta. Whenever I load Ableton 12 the ram keeps growing higher on its own, even while doing nothing and no plugins loaded. My setup - M1 mac mini,8gb.

Copy of ableton 11 runs great though, please share a fix if you find one. ;)

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Re: Application Memory problem since updating to Live 12

Post by dab » Mon Mar 18, 2024 7:56 pm

Same here! After 5 minutes I get the CPU overload! Tried everything I can think of...guess Ill have to wait for a fix! Im fed up trying! Never had any issues before 12.

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Re: Application Memory problem since updating to Live 12

Post by [jur] » Mon Mar 18, 2024 8:37 pm

Please everyone submit a bug report to Support!
There was at least one person who experienced this during beta.

Do you have content from your Places stored on the cloud? (I'm not saying this is the problem, I'm just curious)
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Re: Application Memory problem since updating to Live 12

Post by dab » Tue Mar 19, 2024 3:04 pm

Is Abletons support page down? Trying to send crash report status cant find link? :evil:

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Re: Application Memory problem since updating to Live 12

Post by [jur] » Tue Mar 19, 2024 3:40 pm

dab wrote:
Tue Mar 19, 2024 3:04 pm
Is Abletons support page down? Trying to send crash report status cant find link? :evil:

dab
It doesn't work if you click the link from my previous post?
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Re: Application Memory problem since updating to Live 12

Post by djpinigai » Thu May 09, 2024 6:43 am

maybe you guys found solution yet? 12.02 still not fixed.

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Re: Application Memory problem since updating to Live 12

Post by Takeaction » Sun May 19, 2024 11:49 pm

djpinigai wrote:
Thu May 09, 2024 6:43 am
maybe you guys found solution yet? 12.02 still not fixed.
Still no fix, I'm also experienceing this bug too.

Please fix this Ableton <3.

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