Does audio to midi work for anyone?

[sowhoso]

It doesn't seem like the warp markers had any effect at all on the conversion.

yeah, i tried one more time...moving the marker as Carl suggested to different parts of the note and some notes just wouldn't convert no matter where i put the marker, totally MIA

[kitekrazy]

I also have Melodyne and my first attempts at Live pitch2midi show it to be inferior. However, I'm going to keep working with it, I'm sure I can tame it a bit and having it inside Live makes it faster to get parts from singing to MIDI.

I tried a piano clip and got reverse results. Ableton did better than Melodyne. If there is one thinkg to learn that audio to midi is not perfect.

[AustinThumper]

Well, I had a better result with the Hang Drum recording I used..

I did not edit any midi data in this at all. no cleanup.

https://soundcloud.com/zill512/hang-on-sufi

Basically,
1) loaded the hang recording.
2) Convert Audio to Harmony
3) Audio To Melody
4) I then add instruments getting midi from Harmony and Melody trax.
5) Bob IS your uncle. Do not deny it.

[Sibanger]

Some things it works pretty well at, but with other more complex pieces, or sounds with effects, it doesn't work so well.

This is to be expected.

Sometimes, I find it easier to listen & try and play what I'm hearing & record that. Old school

[SpeedKing]

I also have Melodyne and my first attempts at Live pitch2midi show it to be inferior. However, I'm going to keep working with it, I'm sure I can tame it a bit and having it inside Live makes it faster to get parts from singing to MIDI.

I tried a piano clip and got reverse results. Ableton did better than Melodyne. If there is one thinkg to learn that audio to midi is not perfect.

I tried a whole lot of different things when I was beta testing this, and one thing I'll say that the Ableton Harmony to MIDI conversion on straight-up piano is downright mindblowing. I have a lot of CDs of various classical and baroque piano pieces, and there were some pieces where I really couldn't tell the original from the MIDI version.

But then there are other times when the MIDI conversion needs a lot of help, or is non-useful. I think converting audio to MIDI is just a fairly new technology, and nobody has it perfect at all yet, or even close. For what it is though, I give a lot of Kudos to Ableton on this feature. I think it is a really fantastic addition to the program.

[bosonHavoc]

yes articulate and check the transients, add and remove to get best results.
getting your pitch referenced before singing is going to help allot as mentioned.
record a nice solid signal is important.

for beatboxing try and hit your frequencies and clarity.
make the snare sound like a snare, hats like hats, kicks like kicks...
first time i tried to do the beatbox thing all my sounds meshed together
and i noticed my snares sounded like kicks when a spit them into the mic.
so the conversion didn't work as good as when i beatboxed better.

[hoffman2k]

It doesn't seem like the warp markers had any effect at all on the conversion.

yeah, i tried one more time...moving the marker as Carl suggested to different parts of the note and some notes just wouldn't convert no matter where i put the marker, totally MIA

Are you working with Warp Markers or Transient markers? Because you need to adjust the latter.

If you want a way to double-check your edits, Slice by Transient.
Incidentally, while you have a sliced version of your sample, you have the ability to make an edited version of your source material. Which is handy if you want control over a specific sound that is messing up results.

[sowhoso]

oh crap!

[tone61]

Here's a video where it definitely works:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=p ... hSU7FzN1cY#!

[esp81]

A Renoise user created a script that does basically the same thing, and it already works better than Ableton. lol

[sowhoso]

Here's a video where it definitely works:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=p ... hSU7FzN1cY#!

of course that works

what doesn't work is sustained notes like with guitar or piano arpeggios (wit sus pedal)

[sowhoso]

going on the tip from that video i muted the strings by sliding a rag underneath them near the bridge (acoustic guitar) and used CONVERT MELODY

the results were a lot better (same material as in the file i posted above). after bouncing i dragged out the notes that needed to be sustained to imitate arpeggios played on a guitar (using CC64 is too tedious for this)

squeaks still get picked up so those need to be deleted from the midi

this workflow is way faster than anything i've tried so far, no need to deal with umpteen extra notes

[tone61]

Good to hear you got better results.

I think Live9 is a release with lots of possibilities.
People need to use it for some time to learn what works.
Things like audio to midi and Max4Live will be more useful let's say after one year once people understand those more.
And of course more M4L devices have been created.

[sowhoso]

yeah, but i forgot to point out that the above does not work for hammer-ons and pull-offs (they require a previously sustained note)

[ian_halsall]

using it right now - it works - not perfect but you it's easier than searching out the sheet music (if you can play) or working it out if you can't find it

and a lot easier if you can't play anything.