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They might consider programming language information a trade secret so unless you are part of the company, I wouldn't expect you to know what is going on with regards to C++ and Python. But I can tell you that you can build an Ableton Live in 99% Python and that would be faster than the current vers...

The consensus that Python is slower is wrong. Mercurial is faster than CVS / SVN. Your idea that the free software movement is ridiculous is also wrong. Here is an example of something that is better than what you'd get from any proprietary vendor: http://scipy.org/Topical_Software If you know a lot...

@seattletruth: The Mubarak reference was not an attack, it was meant as an analogy between software freedom and real-world freedom. If you see code running on Linux as a freedom issue, in addition to a business decision, it is helpful. I never suggested they should work only on the Linux port. A tea...

Music production on the iPad is a fad. Someone told me that their current job postings usually say they are looking for Python. It wouldn't surprise me if this fact were not public. The language they use can be a competitive advantage for them. But it does make their argument about the difficulty of...

@Seattletruth: I'm amazed you go to this forum and type up a bunch of text against software freedom. Do you also go to Egyptian forums and defend Mubarak? How ironic that they use Python, but don't support the operating system that Python is written on. I posted this earlier, but I'll post it again ...

Did you know that Ableton already uses Python? Someone who lives in Germany pointed this out to me: http://www.itjobboard.de/index.php?xc=1&WT.mc_id=e10001&Mode=AdvertView&AdvertId=7761303&lang=de&source=JBE&SearchTerms=&LocationSearchTerms=&JobTypeFilter=0&DatePo...

I don't run Windows because it is an inferior operating system. It is about quality, not price. There are people making money on proprietary Linux software: IBM, Oracle, Red Hat, etc. Python is free software, so Ableton is already using free software to make money on proprietary software. Running on...

It doesn't suck to run Linux over Windows. I emailed to two people at Ableton who ran Linux, one who ran Debian for more than 10 years. So even they can't defend it. The whole point about the free market is that we are in charge, and don't need to defend Ableton's bad ideas. If you don't demand bett...

I haven't had a Windows partition in years. Many Linux people quit dual-booting after a while.

BTW, I have heard that Ableton has a lot of Python, which is trivial to port to Linux. It mostly involves the cp command.

Eventually a FOSS DAW will happen. But in the meanwhile, Ableton can make money licensing a Linux version of their product.

The hard part about an Ableton for iPhone is shrinking the UI down. With Linux, the problem is making little coding / build changes. Linux would get more hip if the hip apps worked on it. And it is evolving nicely. Now is a good time to get in, even if it still "feels" early as it will tak...

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It is good to be a devil's advocate, but being against Linux isn't a useful position. There are many ways to make money for writing free software, but we are talking here about Ableton supporting customers who want to run Linux. That is a totally different issue. Look at Flash: it is proprietary but...

Hi;

Simultaneously to you, I updated the text above and it responds to the points you make.

Regards,

-Keith