Targus Numeric Keypad as Controller?

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fmpfilms
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Targus Numeric Keypad as Controller?

Post by fmpfilms » Fri Oct 24, 2008 1:36 am

Ok, so most of us have seen this:

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http://createdigitalmusic.com/2006/11/2 ... eton-live/

But what about this?:

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http://www.targus.com/us/product_Detail ... KU=PAUK10U

Same principle, but on a smaller scale. I feel like it would be useful for triggering scenes or effects. For what I do, I think it would be perfect, especially since it gives me 2 more USB ports. They're fairly expensive for such a simple unit IMO, but maybe there's an alternative product out there that's basically the same thing. I'm going to do some more research. What do you guys think?

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Post by Mike Goodwin » Fri Oct 24, 2008 2:18 am

I have been toying around with the idea of even hacking and rebuilding the guts of a keyboard for use with Live or Traktor. Does this little keypad have usb ports on the back of it? If so that would be pretty slick. You could put your handy dandy led lamp over it and place it where you need it. If you bought it from faderfox it would cost $200 im sure.

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Post by fmpfilms » Fri Oct 24, 2008 3:06 am

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And since we're on the subject...

Post by fmpfilms » Fri Oct 24, 2008 3:35 am

And since we're on the subject. We should really start using these:

http://www.plum.bz/

25 bucks.

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It's like a monome with no lights. I'm fine with that.

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Post by kaffein » Fri Oct 24, 2008 4:02 am

I you want to stick with qwerty or dvorak...
http://www.typematrix.com/
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USB one coming soon...

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Post by kaffein » Fri Oct 24, 2008 4:13 am

I've looked into point of sale keyboards in the past and found some interesting options...

Programmable 16key 100$ ( if only midi sequencer data could be sent to it with LEDs XD )
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http://www.fentek-ind.com/xks16.htm

20 key programmable
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http://www.fentek-ind.com/keypad.htm#kp20xd

I've also seen a 16x16 point of sale keyboard in the past... All blank keys. If anyone has seen it please post. :)

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Post by Kirb » Fri Oct 24, 2008 9:05 am

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Here's mine; I've been using it for a while, and it's definitely convenient while making beats with my mpc and drumracks to have dedicated common commands, especially for 10 bucks.

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Post by logic_user99 » Fri Oct 24, 2008 9:35 am

+1 for 'best thread of the day so far'

@Kirb - do you use that little jigger for editing your 'played' beats, or maybe even for programming them by hand? Hmm...

@fmpfilms - SOLD! I can't see how it could be any use a keyboard for typing, but as a controller (with a copy of ControllerMate) that thing's be pretty much priceless, no?

I needs to get me some of this custom-keyboard action, although I've already got FAR too many controlly bits and bobs on my desk (Nocturn, USB gamepad, 49 key controller, Oxygen 8).

When using an 'extra' USB keyboard like one of the above products, would it overide my Mac's laptop keyboard? I'd hate to have 'spacebar issues' mid-set... If it'll work independently, I'm going to have one of those 'PLUM' boads I think.
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Post by Kirb » Fri Oct 24, 2008 10:22 am

Hey Logic_user,

When I'm building layered beats/rhythms with my mpc triggering drumracks, I find I often want to turn Overdub on/off, turn the metronome on and off, maybe tap a new tempo, etc. So I used a labelmaker to 'dedicate' those commands (plus some others) to keys. I have a Remote Zero also, but I find I like to use that for 'song-specific' commands and shortcuts (as far as its assignable buttons go), and my usb 10-key for stuff that stays the same song to song.

I use pc's but I'm pretty sure that OSX sees every usb keyboard as an independent unit. That Plum board does look tasty.

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Post by ghast » Fri Oct 24, 2008 10:33 am

Wow! I'm gonna go ahead and order the plum. I would love to see it work in addition to my existing keyboard, instead of replacing it. Surely, there must be some sort of utiliity out there to allow this. Perhaps some kind of usb editor (PC). Maybe, even some way to convert it to a midi device?

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Post by monkeyboy » Fri Oct 24, 2008 3:41 pm

ghast wrote:Wow! I'm gonna go ahead and order the plum. I would love to see it work in addition to my existing keyboard, instead of replacing it. Surely, there must be some sort of utiliity out there to allow this. Perhaps some kind of usb editor (PC). Maybe, even some way to convert it to a midi device?
Why not tape down the Caps lock key on the plum keyboard. Voila - 2x your number of keys (unless I'm missing something?)
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Post by robotsound » Fri Oct 24, 2008 4:38 pm

i use one of those USB game pad things for your left hand with all the buttons and scenes and hat switches and stuff. very handy.

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Post by Mike Goodwin » Fri Oct 24, 2008 5:57 pm

fmpfilms wrote:Image

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Sexy!

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Re: And since we're on the subject...

Post by Mike Goodwin » Fri Oct 24, 2008 6:01 pm

fmpfilms wrote:And since we're on the subject. We should really start using these:

http://www.plum.bz/

25 bucks.

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It's like a monome with no lights. I'm fine with that.
SEXY SEXY!

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Post by globalgoon » Fri Oct 24, 2008 6:04 pm

the problem with keyboards is that if you press more than 4 keys simultaneously, only 4 will be recognised. For some (the x keys) only 1 key will be recognised out of those multiple keys you pressed!!

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