I guess this is where it comes down to individual use and how we are all different - I really love working in the session view, I just think it keeps things really fluid and exciting because I try and keep up with it - meaning I try and make all the changes really quickly on the fly without stopping as if I was playing live, even in the studioMartyn wrote: I really don't get why there's such a schizm regarding the Session view/arrangement view relationship, I always thought that the overall work-flow was a very clear one. First build up some form of performance setup in session, hit the record button then go for the performance of your life, including all the automation you managed to do with your controller hardware. You then hop over to the arrange page where the results of your performance await you, mistakes and all. Next, you can do another take if you want or simply remain in arrange and finish the tune off.
This is how I tend to work with it, I don't see the point in trying to make a tune using just the session view, Live wasn't designed to work like that, there wouldn't be a session AND arrange if this was the case. Session view is where you do the live performing, arrange view is where you finish the production details.
what I find this does is really help keep me tune in with the music and rely on instincts because I need to make changes quickly so it doesn't get boring - so if it is looping a certain way then I just hear how I think it should go next and try and make it happen really quickly - it keeps it more immediate and improvisational rather than getting to much into my head thinking about things too hard
the ability to automate is key here because as soon as I start doing that then I have to leave this constantly flowing, inspirational and evolving environment and move into the same old dull, linear kind of arranger where you have to look at everything all plotted out and THINK about where everything should go
to put it another way, I see the session view a bit more like the pattern sequencers in reason
I really loved the way it was so easy to sequence automation with the Matrix sequencer in Reason, but the other elements of Reason bugged me, like the limitations of the actual sounds and filters etc that you were automating with it - so I have always wanted the same kind of thing in Live.
CLip envelopes came really damn close, but the fact that you have to go and set them up first and can't immediately create them is to me a bit like building a ferrari and then making the accelerator computer controlled so that you had to open the glove box and pull out a screen to program in the times when you want to speed up
It'd be nice to be able to specify something like a Sawtooth shape every 3/4 of a bar for instance.
I haven't either fwiw, I recon that big glass of water theory is fatally flawed!
Don't really know what to expect.