Something wonderful has happened...

piZMo · Post by **piZMo** » Mon Apr 07, 2008 4:03 pm

what i see...

...a sample based instrument that is a controlled with timecode vinyl

...there must be a 'track/channel window' where the chosen samples are loaded and made accessable to the timecode vinyl

is the loop length fixed?

more info please!

really interested in this.

Sales Dude McBoob · Post by **Sales Dude McBoob** » Mon Apr 07, 2008 4:24 pm

Tags: Scratching Ableton AWESOME Turntablism NewSchool OldSchool MonkeyGod

Tell me, good sir, I own a TTM 57SL and Ableton Live 7. I believe that makes me a potential customer of yours. Please sir, ply your wares. What exactly does your magic tonic do?

Patch · Post by **Patch** » Mon Apr 07, 2008 4:40 pm

ARGH!!!! I can't see the video here at work!!! ARGH!!! What is it!!! Tell me, tell me now!!!

And PLEEEEEZE! Let it work with other timecode systems!!!!

See here:

http://www.ableton.com/forum/viewtopic. ... highlight=

Nathan Ramella · Post by **Nathan Ramella** » Mon Apr 07, 2008 4:45 pm

substaticnz wrote:Sweet man,
Very cool, looks like you are using Serato. Ive got 2 questions for you:
1) Are you going to make it available to everyone?
2) will it work with standard scratch live box, or is the daddy serato rane mixer required?

I was woundering how long it would take for some smart mushroom to intergate this into ableton.

Well done mate

A1) TBD
A2) It's not limited to Serato. I have it working with the following timecode flavors..

Serato
Final Scratch
Traktor Scratch
Torq
Ms. Pinky

It's not limited to specific hardware.

Nathan Ramella · Post by **Nathan Ramella** » Mon Apr 07, 2008 4:49 pm

piZMo wrote:what i see...

...a sample based instrument that is a controlled with timecode vinyl

...there must be a 'track/channel window' where the chosen samples are loaded and made accessable to the timecode vinyl

is the loop length fixed?

more info please!

really interested in this.

A1) Yes
A2) Almost. Samples are triggered by MIDI, their velocity is expressed by the vinyl
A3) Samples can be any size
A4) Looping is not necessary

Nathan Ramella · Post by **Nathan Ramella** » Mon Apr 07, 2008 4:50 pm

Patch wrote:
And PLEEEEEZE! Let it work with other timecode systems!!!!

For you, ok.

Sales Dude McBoob · Post by **Sales Dude McBoob** » Mon Apr 07, 2008 4:50 pm

Patch wrote:ARGH!!!! I can't see the video here at work!!! ARGH!!! What is it!!! Tell me, tell me now!!!

And PLEEEEEZE! Let it work with other timecode systems!!!!

See here:

http://www.ableton.com/forum/viewtopic. ... highlight=

The You Tube video is a shot of his mixer and turntables, and there is a computer monitor in front of them. He's running Live on the monitor, and scratching what appears to be a midi clip with Serato timecode vinyl. The person in the video is a pretty good scratcher. They are using an analog Rane Empath mixer, not the TTM 57SL, so you don't need the fancyass 57 to do this. The person in the video is using some sort of controller, but it's out of the frame of the shot. Likely a foot controller or something.

If this person has something that allows you to run Abelton through DJ hardware like the SL1 or the TTM 57SL, and scratch vinyl with timecode vinyl, that would be cool. If you can run Serato AND Ableton at the same time on shared hardware, that would be bananas.

Nathan Ramella · Post by **Nathan Ramella** » Mon Apr 07, 2008 4:52 pm

globalgoon wrote:midi scratching... do you have to wait the clip-length before you can scratch it?

No. As soon as the sample NOTE-ON occurs, the entire length of the sample is available for scratching.

As well, even after the NOTE-OFF has occurred, you can still be scratching if you've hooked the sampler under the needle and are giving back/fwd rocks.

The best way to explain it is, it's like channeling multiple records through one, they're fluid up until they go underneath the needle, then they all become part of the same stream. hyperscratching.

kb420 · Post by **kb420** » Mon Apr 07, 2008 5:11 pm

Teach us the weirding way oh great mokey god!!!!!!!

kabuki · Post by **kabuki** » Mon Apr 07, 2008 5:21 pm

I peed a little.

FINALLY someone made this happen (should have been the Abs, and they would charge folks $200 for the "instrument", but I digress.

Absolutely beautiful.

How I'm gonna go get a towel.

kabuki · Post by **kabuki** » Mon Apr 07, 2008 5:22 pm

Nathan Ramella wrote:A4) Looping is not necessary

I imagiine scratching a live feed (singer, MC) in realtime. Yes?

Sales Dude McBoob · Post by **Sales Dude McBoob** » Mon Apr 07, 2008 5:22 pm

kabuki wrote: How I'm gonna go get a towel?

Kubuke, you have to stand up and go to the bathroom and get the towel yourself.

kabuki · Post by **kabuki** » Mon Apr 07, 2008 6:13 pm

Sales Dude McBoob wrote:
kabuki wrote: How I'm gonna go get a towel?
Kubuke, you have to stand up and go to the bathroom and get the towel yourself.

I am trapped at my desk with a chubby. I can't quite walk around the office pitchng a "Scratching in Live" tent.

DOWN, BOY! DOWN!

Nathan Ramella · Post by **Nathan Ramella** » Mon Apr 07, 2008 6:21 pm

kabuki wrote:I peed a little.

FINALLY someone made this happen

No kidding. I've been wanting this since I first bought Final Scratch 1.0.

kabuki wrote: (should have been the Abs, and they would charge folks $200 for the "instrument", but I digress.

Absolutely beautiful.

How I'm gonna go get a towel.

I offered Ableton exclusive rights to the prototype/idea to implement -- after explaining it to a product manager I never heard a word back from them. *shrug*

While you can use it standalone or with any DAW, I designed it specifically with Live in mind. Peas in a pod.

Sales Dude McBoob · Post by **Sales Dude McBoob** » Mon Apr 07, 2008 6:26 pm

NatRam,

Care to disclose a little information about the type of hardware needed to utilize timecode vinyl with Live?