I just made a vocoder using only ableton components!

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Post by condra » Tue Dec 25, 2007 3:15 pm

MAD PROPS ANGSTROM!!!!!1

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Post by ethios4 » Wed Dec 26, 2007 3:35 am

Nice work!

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Post by kramerica » Wed Dec 26, 2007 4:04 am

Having an issue figuring out where to install this live pack? Where are they usually stored? (sorry I should know by know)
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Post by tricil » Wed Dec 26, 2007 4:25 am

kramerica wrote:Having an issue figuring out where to install this live pack? Where are they usually stored? (sorry I should know by know)
where ever you want to put it.
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Post by sunrahrahrah » Wed Dec 26, 2007 10:37 pm

yes!!!!!

thanks dude!!!!



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Post by v00d00ppl » Wed Dec 26, 2007 10:40 pm

impressive. i will play with it in a bit. thanks.
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Post by GUY SMILEY » Sun Dec 30, 2007 12:32 am

The sidechain input of compressor has a filter, which is used to asses the incoming vocal, so for example a band pass on the sideband at 1k will only make the compressor compress when a signal is present in the vocal at 1k.

Now, of course the synth is the carrier, so the compressor will turn down the synth when the vocal goes loud (at 1k), which as you say , is the wrong way round. So how do we invert it? Like you guessed, A duplicate rack-chain in parallel, with a Utility set on phase invert. This cancels out similar signals and lets disimilar signals through. When the compressed synth goes quiet it is because A - B = 0 , IE both channels are the same, but if A is quieter due to the sidechain modulation then A- B = 0.14231234 (or whatever) and we hear the difference.

so I can extract positive values from each frequency band by bandpass, sidebands and phase inversion.
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Post by forge » Sun Dec 30, 2007 4:13 am

inspired crazy voodoo genius madness

the really stunning thing is it illustrated to me just what a bastard Vista is - I'm getting something like 20-30% lower CPU readings under XP (SP3) 8O

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Post by Grappadura » Sun Dec 30, 2007 11:21 am

This is the best sounding vocoder i´ve heard. It sounds so analog! What a full and warm sound!!!! Very, very sweet!!!

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Post by Dchild » Sun Dec 30, 2007 1:07 pm

Can some please post a screen shot showing how to set this beast up. How do you route the signal of a synth through the vocoder

thanks

D

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Post by musicmachine » Sun Dec 30, 2007 1:21 pm

forge wrote:inspired crazy voodoo genius madness

the really stunning thing is it illustrated to me just what a bastard Vista is - I'm getting something like 20-30% lower CPU readings under XP (SP3) 8O
Is service pack 3 available?I read about it but it's not officially released yet is it?Can't find it on the site anyway.Wouldn't mind trying it if it's an improvement over SP2 :)

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Post by forge » Sun Dec 30, 2007 1:54 pm

musicmachine wrote:
forge wrote:inspired crazy voodoo genius madness

the really stunning thing is it illustrated to me just what a bastard Vista is - I'm getting something like 20-30% lower CPU readings under XP (SP3) 8O
Is service pack 3 available?I read about it but it's not officially released yet is it?Can't find it on the site anyway.Wouldn't mind trying it if it's an improvement over SP2 :)
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Post by Angstrom » Sun Dec 30, 2007 2:13 pm

Dchild wrote:Can some please post a screen shot showing how to set this beast up. How do you route the signal of a synth through the vocoder

thanks

D
just put your synth before the vocoder effect.
you select the voice input in the vocoder section marked 'INPUT'

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Post by sweetjesus » Sun Dec 30, 2007 2:37 pm

dude

u are one sick mofo, this is truely appreciated =D

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Post by Nogi » Mon Dec 31, 2007 12:24 am

Been having a lot of fun with this thing. Here's a couple tips:

If you assign a global macro to the threshold of each compressor you can use it as a wet/dry to blend in the synth source with the vocal.

Also, I cut the number of bands down to 9 (still covering the same freq range) and copied a second instance of EQ3 to each band. About the same CPU hit but really tracks a faster vocal well for that classic, monotone Cylon sound.

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