'Compress / Hide Time' in Arrangement..

Poster · Post by **Poster** » Sun Apr 15, 2007 6:59 pm

Nokatus wrote:Bumping into a winner idea like this, still knowing that you're not going to be able to use it for quite some time, is actually pretty frustrating

yep.. I think this could help me with composing big time..

you're right; even if such a feature will be implemented it will take a long time..
so that's why it's best to forget it for the time being..

posssu · Post by **posssu** » Sun Apr 15, 2007 8:32 pm

Why does it have to be compressed? Why can't the part just be marked with a marker with an end and then you could just drag around the whole area from the start marker?

I find this compressing-part of this idea a bit weird, if the idea is to arrange more easily. Does it have to be "compressed" (=hidden) to be able to arrange better?

Also, I vote for Playlist to arrangement-mode. Just use a playlist to arrange your song: you could drag the playing order of your song's different parts and change it with one drag.

Nokatus · Post by **Nokatus** » Mon Apr 16, 2007 8:37 am

posssu wrote:I find this compressing-part of this idea a bit weird, if the idea is to arrange more easily. Does it have to be "compressed" (=hidden) to be able to arrange better?

Then you're again stuck with moving the alternative parts around, stacking the stored ideas behind the actual song. The ability to "compress" or "hide" time in this manner, moving it around in that hidden form, and then "expanding" it at will at some position on the timeline, is in my opinion a great idea.

posssu · Post by **posssu** » Mon Apr 16, 2007 2:44 pm

So when it's compressed, it wouldn't actually play? Oh, now I get it. Yea that sounds like a good idea! I think I'm not stuck anymore.

Nokatus · Post by **Nokatus** » Mon Apr 16, 2007 6:59 pm

Great, and yeah, it's definitely an "oh, NOW I see it!" type of idea. When this is compared to juggling different alternative elements solely by copy/paste/drag/store on the timeline/fetch from the timeline/yadda... it's really understandable how it would enhance the arranging workflow.

Poster · Post by **Poster** » Mon Apr 16, 2007 7:16 pm

Nokatus wrote:it's definitely an "oh, NOW I see it!" type of idea.

exactly..
Think in this case action would speak louder than words..

If you could use this already in some sort of interactive way it would be more convincing and self explanatory..

But I'm glad at least some people like the idea..

Poster · Post by **Poster** » Mon Apr 16, 2007 7:22 pm

posssu wrote:So when it's compressed, it wouldn't actually play? Oh, now I get it. Yea that sounds like a good idea! I think I'm not stuck anymore.

yeah.. that's the idea!

a playlist solution is also nice (would make arrange non-linear as well)
but I would rather like to see it combined with a compress time feature..

the combo would definately liberate Arrange and be a big selling point..

Poster · Post by **Poster** » Sat May 12, 2007 1:13 pm

yesterday I really wanted to compress a part on 1 track..

that could be very usefull as well,
instead of compressing time on multiple tracks only..

Idonotlikebroccoli · Post by **Idonotlikebroccoli** » Sat May 12, 2007 3:05 pm

posssu wrote:Also, I vote for Playlist to arrangement-mode. Just use a playlist to arrange your song: you could drag the playing order of your song's different parts and change it with one drag.

I would love to be able to do this with scenes. Here's what I'm thinking:

---------------------
sc1 repetitions: 2
sc2 repetitions: 4
sc1 repetitions: 1
sc3 repetitions: 4

arrange/ok
---------------------

There could also be other things like transpose, tempo, groove, fade in/out etc. in this list.

Idonotlikebroccoli · Post by **Idonotlikebroccoli** » Sat May 12, 2007 3:43 pm

A global transpose button would also be a godsend. It sucks when you decide that you have to transpose everything 2 semitones down to make the bassline sound better.

Poster · Post by **Poster** » Fri Jun 01, 2007 1:28 am

I just wanted to apply the compress button,
realizing it is just a request

so mega bumpp p p

Idonotlikebroccoli · Post by **Idonotlikebroccoli** » Fri Jun 01, 2007 6:05 am

Bump here too

Poster · Post by **Poster** » Sat Aug 04, 2007 4:23 pm

happy bumpday

scientist · Post by **scientist** » Thu Aug 09, 2007 12:19 am

Poster wrote:I just wanted to apply the compress button,
realizing it is just a request

i was just working on an arrangement and did the same thing. bump.

Poster · Post by **Poster** » Thu Sep 06, 2007 9:49 pm

just had a nice idea to make this feature even better..

what if you could drag the 'compress locator' into the browser,
Live would then save the compressed part as a new set with all associated files..