Midi bug?

Dj-Grobe · Post by **Dj-Grobe** » Tue Dec 26, 2006 12:46 pm

I have configured 6 audio channells in my software MonoTouchLive.
I use midi sended from ableton for indciate when audio track its playing, all work perfect, when you press play button, ableton usually return valude 127 for indicate its playing, and 126 when you click play again on playing track.

I detect only one toruble, when use scene plays, the tracks not return 127 some times and just return value 0 ........
This its a bug?

Why ableton return 0 some times and not 127 or 126 when replaying.

Oh and other times value its 1.......

This its very problematic, because i cant use that midi signal for indicate track its playing on my controller.

Its a midi bug on ableton?

gafferuk · Post by **gafferuk** » Tue Dec 26, 2006 12:54 pm

Im building a controller too but have not came across your problem, my midi-in is working great.

Dj-Grobe · Post by **Dj-Grobe** » Tue Dec 26, 2006 12:56 pm

Are you sure ableton correctly send midi status to your controller to all tracks playings when use scene play buttons?
I put midi monitor software and the midi monitor software tellme its abelton trouble not my system.

Somebody form abelton can reply this please !!

: )

gafferuk · Post by **gafferuk** » Tue Dec 26, 2006 1:01 pm

I always receive 127 when playing, 126 on repeat and 0 on stop. Works fine for me.

I use it on my trigger-pad.

Dj-Grobe · Post by **Dj-Grobe** » Tue Dec 26, 2006 1:16 pm

Thank you for the info, here i recive 127 when play, 126 when replay, 0 when stop, that when use anysingle chanell, but when use GLOBAL SCENE players, recive 127, when click othe rplay scene, back to 0 and continue playing.......its very strange.

Dj-Grobe · Post by **Dj-Grobe** » Tue Dec 26, 2006 1:34 pm

This ist absolutly amazing because monitor i use just show all the info sended from ableton, and playing diferent scenes i recive 127 and then go to 0.......

Someting its wrong here.

I uninstall midiyoke and test with other midi virtual cable tool.

ABleton where i test its version 6.0.3 with same result on 6.0.2

Dj-Grobe · Post by **Dj-Grobe** » Tue Dec 26, 2006 1:38 pm

Example monitor data when i click on one single play of any clip:

TIMESTAMP IN PORT STATUS DATA1 DATA2 CHAN NOTE EVENT
00055439 3 -- B0 01 7E 1 --- CC: Modulation
00055652 3 -- B0 01 7F 1 --- CC: Modulation

And this when i click global play scene for first time:

TIMESTAMP IN PORT STATUS DATA1 DATA2 CHAN NOTE EVENT
00062D90 3 -- F2 00 00 -- --- Song Position Ptr
00062DB1 3 -- B0 01 7E 1 --- CC: Modulation
00062DB1 3 -- B0 01 7F 1 --- CC: Modulation

You see all its ok............but when click on other scenee play:

TIMESTAMP IN PORT STATUS DATA1 DATA2 CHAN NOTE EVENT
0006D45E 3 -- B0 01 7E 1 --- CC: Modulation
0006D8A5 3 -- B0 01 7F 1 --- CC: Modulation
0006D8A5 3 -- B0 01 00 1 --- CC: Modulation

I have 0.....

I test now with any other midi viertual wire for see if midiyoke its the trouble, but i dont hink that.

chapelier fou · Post by **chapelier fou** » Tue Dec 26, 2006 1:44 pm

HI!
Are you saying that a playing clip or scene can output a midi message showing it is playing???? Even in live 5?
Ableton support told me not....
Please, answer me, it is very important, and forgive my poor english!!

gafferuk · Post by **gafferuk** » Tue Dec 26, 2006 1:44 pm

You want to try midi vmc api, it's a virtual midi cable which you can name them like "MonoTouch MIDI-In Port 1" etc. Won't help your problem here, but will make your app more pro.

http://www.hurchalla.com/Maple_driver.html

Dj-Grobe · Post by **Dj-Grobe** » Tue Dec 26, 2006 1:48 pm

chapelier fou yous use midi monitor and you can see what ableton can do and waht cant : )

Yes ableton 6 send midi info about all play status, only if you have midi learned.
Example if you midi learn slider, the when you move slider, slider send to ouput the midi info about what is the position.
If you midi learn play of track or scene, you recive info of status too : )

Best regards.

If you use windows can use MIDI-OX monitor for test.

Bets regards.

gafferuk · Post by **gafferuk** » Tue Dec 26, 2006 1:49 pm

chapelier fou wrote:HI!
Are you saying that a playing clip or scene can output a midi message showing it is playing???? Even in live 5?
Ableton support told me not....
Please, answer me, it is very important, and forgive my poor english!!

http://www.teragon.org/wiki/index.php?title=Options.txt

Check out midiNoteFeedback.

chapelier fou · Post by **chapelier fou** » Tue Dec 26, 2006 1:51 pm

unbelievable!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Dj-Grobe · Post by **Dj-Grobe** » Tue Dec 26, 2006 2:03 pm

Use other midid virtual device have same result 0 !!

I test on windows, machine, not have time now for test on mac.

Sombody can repeat thsi test for see if thsi its windows ableton bug?

gafferuk you have ableton 6 on mac or 5?

gafferuk · Post by **gafferuk** » Tue Dec 26, 2006 2:04 pm

Dj-Grobe wrote:Use other midid virtual device have same result 0 !!

I test on windows, machine, not have time now for test on mac.

Sombody can repeat thsi test for see if thsi its windows ableton bug?

gafferuk you have ableton 6 on mac or 5?

Im using live 6 on windows.

Dj-Grobe · Post by **Dj-Grobe** » Tue Dec 26, 2006 2:22 pm

wow, sombody have idea why i recive 0 ?

gafferuk can repeat thsi test please:

Open ableton select some output of midi yoke, and then load in one audio track 2 clips.
Then using midi ox ( http://www.midiox.com/zip/midioxse.exe ), play one clip and using "scene play 1", and you should ahve somethingh like this:

PLAY FIRST CLIP USING GLOBAL SCENE PLAYER:

TIMESTAMP IN PORT STATUS DATA1 DATA2 CHAN NOTE EVENT
00055439 3 -- B0 01 7E 1 --- CC: Modulation
00055652 3 -- B0 01 7F 1 --- CC: Modulation

THEN CLICK " SCENE PLAY 2" button
This result i have, what you have?

TIMESTAMP IN PORT STATUS DATA1 DATA2 CHAN NOTE EVENT
0006D45E 3 -- B0 01 7E 1 --- CC: Modulation
0006D8A5 3 -- B0 01 7F 1 --- CC: Modulation
0006D8A5 3 -- B0 01 00 1 --- CC: Modulation *

* THIS ITS LINE WHEN ABLETON TURN TO 0 THE OUTPUT.
You not have this line?