Ableton 6 + Reason Rewired, off sync ?

sporkles · Post by **sporkles** » Tue Jun 05, 2007 12:42 pm

I hope this will be regarded as a bug, and not a feature

Bug fix 6.08?

soundpalace · Post by **soundpalace** » Tue Jun 19, 2007 1:30 pm

bump

sporkles · Post by **sporkles** » Tue Jun 19, 2007 2:17 pm

I hope they get this sorted quickly. For now, I delay my Live tracks, but it's silly having to work around this. But Reason 4 - huzzah!

soundpalace · Post by **soundpalace** » Sun Jun 24, 2007 6:31 am

sporkles wrote:I hope they get this sorted quickly. For now, I delay my Live tracks, but it's silly having to work around this. But Reason 4 - huzzah!

Yea, delaying each track would be such a pain in the butt

xxxmorphicxxx · Post by **xxxmorphicxxx** » Sun Jun 24, 2007 4:00 pm

For what it's worth, I use Reason 3.0 with Live 6 in every song I do.

I have Reason's track set to Monitor In, and the Track Delay set to -44.5. This is the setting that works for me, and it will probably differ for you.

To find this number, I ran a redrum patch with a quick, very percussive sound with a quick attack, and recorded that into Live. I then zoomed in on the track and saw exactly how many ms it was being delayed. My magic number happened to be -44.5, yours will probably be different.

Now I use Reason's sequencer for Reason sounds, and everything is perfectly on time.

soundpalace · Post by **soundpalace** » Thu Aug 30, 2007 7:13 am

Bump, has this been fixed yet?

davec1 · Post by **davec1** » Thu Aug 30, 2007 7:28 am

not sure I got this right: the delay happens when you send midi data from live to reason, but not when you use midi data in reason's sequencer?

Synthbuilder · Post by **Synthbuilder** » Thu Aug 30, 2007 8:28 am

soundpalace wrote:Bump, has this been fixed yet?

Nope. Still there.

Synthbuilder · Post by **Synthbuilder** » Thu Aug 30, 2007 8:32 am

davec1 wrote:not sure I got this right: the delay happens when you send midi data from live to reason, but not when you use midi data in reason's sequencer?

Yes that's right.

The easiest thing to do is use the Reason sequencer to keep everything in time.

The next easiest thing to do is predelay all the incoming Reason audio that is controlled solely by Live's midiclips. A value around -50 to -100mS will work for most people. It doesn't have to be precise - all it needs is to be bigger than the PDC value.

The problem with this method is that you if you are using Reason's step sequencer to control any of the synths or effects, or any inbuilt LFOs in the Reason rack, then these will be out of step with the Live controlled midi information.

davec1 · Post by **davec1** » Thu Aug 30, 2007 11:39 am

this seriously screws up my plans to use reason and live live!

kb420 · Post by **kb420** » Thu Sep 13, 2007 9:01 pm

Another shameless bump!!!!!!

kb420 · Post by **kb420** » Fri Sep 21, 2007 9:24 pm

kb420 · Post by **kb420** » Fri Sep 28, 2007 11:47 pm

another shameless bump

Any idea on when this may be fixed. I use Live's sequencer alone. I don't use any midi data in Reason. Does this still affect me?

From my understanding, I will only hear this if I have some of Live's own instruments or vst's playing. Otherwise there is still a delay, but I won't hear it if all of the audio is coming from Reason alone, right?

xxxmorphicxxx · Post by **xxxmorphicxxx** » Sat Sep 29, 2007 2:50 am

Just to add to my fix listed above, if you do it my way Reason's ReDrum and Matrix sequencers all play in time.

I could easily play Live and Reason in a live setting.

resonatorman · Post by **resonatorman** » Sat Sep 29, 2007 8:56 am

Just to add to my fix listed above, if you do it my way Reason's ReDrum and Matrix sequencers all play in time. I could easily play Live and Reason in a live setting.

Hi xxxmophicxxx, I have tried your method it unfortunately doesn't work for me. I'm still off or out of sync irregardless of how much I delay the track or even if I adjust driver error compensation I'm always off sync by the same amount....Just curious what sort of set up are you running?

Thanks & bump this for the techies to hopefully get this fixed.....