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JohnDP
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Xone 3D Update

Post by JohnDP » Wed Nov 02, 2005 8:27 am

hi there,

i was down at West End DJ two days ago and they rang up the A&H Sales Rep and i could talk to him.

He didn't tell me nothing really big but he said that the Xone would be around 1.300 and 1.400 Pounds and that some selected stores would have a unit already by the End of November.

It's a small update but its a sign that things are going well. The guy also said that the earlier than planned shipping dates are made possible thanks to the faster resolution of bugs than assumed.

Lets hope it get here soon

JDP

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Post by TonySoprano » Wed Nov 02, 2005 10:38 am

Thanks for the update. It better offer something magical, cause that's one heavy investment. Looking forward to checking it out.

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Post by JohnDP » Wed Nov 02, 2005 12:13 pm

actually i was in the store in London to buy myself a Xone 92 because i am not really thinking of getting a 3D as i don't think it will really suit my needs. I mean the max i do is have 3 tracks going on and i don't need much except for the spring loaded level to pitchbend and the start and stop buttons of the scenes.

I would love to have some more info on that unit and then maybe i'd decide.

JDP

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Post by robtronik » Wed Nov 02, 2005 6:23 pm

awesome. I hope they get some over to the states pronto.

:)

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Post by JohnDP » Thu Nov 10, 2005 8:29 am

visit this link for more info:

http://www.futuremusic.com/news/october2005/xone3d.html


../ Allen & Heath's Revolutionary Xone:3D Mixer
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Allen & Heath showcased its innovative Xone:3D DJ Mixer/Controller workstation at the AES convention in New York City. The 3D, one of six working prototypes, brings the two very different worlds of the vinyl and digital DJ seamlessly together in a well-thought out and brilliantly executed design. The all-in-one design contains a 4 channel analog mixer, two separate MIDI control surfaces, a multi-channel USB soundcard and Allen & Heath's dynamic filter effects. The unit will begin shipping in January of 2006 in Europe for £1400 pounds and will hit the shores of the US sometime in the Spring at $2999 dollars.




Allen & Heath Xone:3D - Two MIDI Controllers sandwich a Xone:92.


The mixer section is a direct descendent of A&H's Xone:92 design, featuring four multi-input stereo channels, 3-band EQ with kill, cue, two stereo returns, headphone monitor with mix/cue control, quality dual rail faders, and a VCA crossfader. The built-in USB soundcard has eight channels, arranged in stereo pairs, which can operate in two modes: six channels from a computer and two returns, or four channels from a computer and four returns. The Analog to Digital translation is handled by 24 bit stereo converters with an audio sampling rate of 48 kHz. The soundcard can be fed from the main mix, FX-1, or direct from the channels, and features SPDIF optical and coaxial connections (see picture below). Also, the USB connection sends and receives both audio and MIDI data, and can be used to update firmware and save mixer configuration data.




The Gameport could be the 3D's secret weapon with the right controller.


The 3D houses Allen & Heath's excellent VCF filters, offering low-pass, band-pass, and high-pass selection, as well as resonance and frequency filters. In addition, there is an assignable LFO with depth control. The master section has two effects sends with pre/post fader selection. An automatic beat detector synchronizes the MIDI clock to the main mix, the FX2 mix buss, or can be disabled to allow the beat to be manually tapped-in. This means that you can instantly synchronize your computer DJ program's BPM to the 12" record you are rocking on your deck. Brilliant! The 3D also has connections for a footswitch controller and a gameport socket for a standard analogue joystick that can also be used as a second MIDI output for seriously amazing creative possibilities.

There are two dedicated MIDI control sections on either side of the mixer (yes, two!), with a total of eight dedicated control faders, 16 rotary controls with center detent, 10 encoders, 50 switches, and two custom jog wheels with micro switches, which can be mapped for use as navigation controls for DJ software such as Ableton's Live, Native Instruments' Traktor and others. Xone:3D can send a total of 105 different MIDI control messages from the dedicated control sections, audio channel faders and crossfader, to the 3D's MIDI out socket and via the USB interface to the computer. Even with the two dedicated controllers on either side of the mxer, every single one of the controls, from the EQ knobs, to the Filter controls to the Crossfader can send MIDI data.




Plenty of gold plated connections, plus SPDIF optical and coaxial.


The Xone:3D could be to Digital DJing what the Pioneer CDJ-1000 was to CD mixing. Not only could it completely legitimize the sport, but the days of a computer crash bringing a DJ set to a screeching halt are over. In addition, the ability to remix tracks on the fly, something done by Sasha, Richie Hawtin, Urban Rhythm and others, is now available to the masses without having to construct their own MIDI interfaces or bring out a truckload of gear. Kudos to Andy Rigby Jones, known as the "King of Xone" inside the Allen & Heath camp, for shepherding this effort from conception to reality. Allen & Heath has now firmly put the pressure on Pioneer, Numark and others to come out with their own versions, which they all will do, at significantly lower prices.




Due to request, A&H will include a Mic input on the front


The biggest hurdle that Allen & Heath faces is the astronomical price of the Xone:3D. At $2999/£1400, the Xone:3D is beyond the reach of many DJs working today. To make matters worse, Allen & Heath has yet to rev up the marketing campaign for the 3D. Most of the buzz is coming from word of mouth within a very small segment of the DJ market. In fact, the Xone:3D display at the AES convention was bordering on pathetic. Not only was the unit buried in the corner, but it only had a single CD player attached to it, and a laptop running Ableton's Live 5. To add insult to injury, the CD had only a few ballads (I kid you not) to "mix." Weak! Without two 1200s, two CDJ-1000s, and a laptop, how is anyone going to receive a comprehensive demo of what the 3D is capable of?? If it wasn't for the helpful Glenn Rogers, then none of our questions about performance would have been answered. Allen & Heath really needs to develop a traveling 3D Demo Station if they want to market the 3D properly in a public forum.

To learn a little more about the Xone:3D hit: Allen-Heath.com.
Warning: the details on the site are pretty skimpy and there's no video of the unit in action

The Future: You're looking at it!

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Post by TonySoprano » Thu Nov 10, 2005 1:11 pm

Xone's PR people need a kick up the arse, they really do. This amount of interest, with a shipping date that varies depending on who you speak to. Posting on Xone's forums gets you zero response from them, which displays either a lack of customer focus, or they're clueless about when the 3D will really be available, or can't secure a serviceable amount of units from their production arm. Don't think for a second that Vestax, Pioneer et al aren't coming up with their own high-end equivalent of a 3D, but have been caught with their pants down by not spotting the potential of Live in DJing setups. Call me paranoid, but the (few) big hitters in the DJing world who are saying they won't be going over to Ableton happen to be the ones who have a fat sponsorship deal from a hardware manufacturer. Carl Cox anyone? I hope I'm proved wrong and the 3D arrives soon. I have been saving. Hard.

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Post by JohnDP » Thu Nov 10, 2005 1:38 pm

one thing that shockes me is that neither Hawtin nor Liebing use the Xone 3D in public, isn't that strange?

http://www.residentadvisor.net/viewphot ... end/19.jpg

http://www.residentadvisor.net/photo_se ... end/30.jpg

(type Liebing in the search field and go on Photos, you'll find plenty of nice pics ALL with a Xone 92 not 3D.

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