TIP: Morphing delaytimes - without automation!

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TIP: Morphing delaytimes - without automation!

Post by Machinate » Tue Aug 09, 2005 7:19 pm

Hi all, I was working on a device chain, and came up with this little trick.

I've made a device chain that automatically morphs between a shrill 1/8th delay and a mid-range 3/16th delay - in time with the mooosic.

Here's how:

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As the autoPan slowly shifts between the left and right channels, it alternately feeds the slow and the fast delays - the utility plugin is there to bring everything back into the centre of the mix.
It has this interesting evolving, filter-sweepy sound to it. Very good for dub and all that, I guess. Switch to a more drastic waveform and this will totally change the rhythm of the input.
If the sound you're feeding into this chain is very wide, you can of course use a second utility plug in front to even things out.

Have fun!
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Post by ben_blue » Tue Aug 09, 2005 8:32 pm

nice idea man.

friggin sweet - cant wait to do it.
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Post by timothyallan » Thu Aug 18, 2005 6:07 am

great idea!

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Post by boomklik » Thu Aug 18, 2005 6:59 am

i am impressed...thanks!

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Post by segue » Thu Aug 18, 2005 9:29 am

makes me want to get home quick...

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Post by Meef Chaloin » Thu Aug 18, 2005 11:12 am

excellent, will certainly try that one!

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That's really good

Post by abledude » Thu Aug 18, 2005 11:47 pm

I selected all and saved it as a device group. Thank you so much.

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Post by atomic » Sun Aug 21, 2005 10:03 pm

Good work!
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Post by kornie » Fri Jan 27, 2006 10:58 pm

if you ad a second autopan between the autopan and the filter delay you canget some weird results... espcially with different unsynced waveforms... great tip!


if you put the panning of the filter delay both to 0 you don't actually need the utility plugin...

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Post by Machinate » Fri Jan 27, 2006 11:07 pm

yeah, the utility fx is there to let people mix in " a little bit of stereo" quickly, just turn the knob.
The Autopan is really a cool little FSU-unit if used creatively - or just excessively :-D
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Post by friend_kami » Thu Sep 21, 2006 9:15 am

hah, i just played around a bit with this trick in mind; checky.

http://nwrecords.com/temp/checky.als
http://nwrecords.com/temp/checky2.als

hehe.

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Post by Frantic » Thu Sep 21, 2006 5:01 pm

Auto-Pans.... Device Groups...

Are these terms of an updated version of Live? I'm using Live 4 and I'm either missing out on the above or it's referring to Live 5 or 6. Please advise.

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Post by ejectorset » Thu Sep 21, 2006 5:28 pm

those are things in live 5.

autopan is a new effect device. its like a tremolo/panner

device groups are a reusable chain of effect/instrument devices. like a preset that contains an impulse, compressor 1, eq 3 and simple delay with settings all as one "group", for example.
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Post by anti-banausic » Thu Sep 21, 2006 5:53 pm

ejectorset wrote:those are things in live 5.

autopan is a new effect device. its like a tremolo/panner

device groups are a reusable chain of effect/instrument devices. like a preset that contains an impulse, compressor 1, eq 3 and simple delay with settings all as one "group", for example.
And device groups are only better in 6 with macros and racks. A rack is live having as many device groups in parallel on the same track, and then with macros, you can map multiple parameters to one knob and this mapping will be remembered every time you bring a rack into a track!!!!

It is going to be a huge leap if you are going from 4 to 6, which I heartily recommend.
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Post by Frantic » Thu Sep 21, 2006 10:29 pm

anti-banausic wrote:A rack is live having as many device groups in parallel on the same track, and then with macros, you can map multiple parameters to one knob...
Woah, multiple parameters mapped to one knob? How do you switch between them... just switch racks or something? I'm not quite sure I'm following.

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