Wavetable - Add To Matrix broken?
Wavetable - Add To Matrix broken?
Hey!
Since the latest update, I am not able to add parameter to the modulation matrix in the wavetable synth anymore. Am I doing something wrong? Are you having the same issue? Maybe any hints?
Jens
Since the latest update, I am not able to add parameter to the modulation matrix in the wavetable synth anymore. Am I doing something wrong? Are you having the same issue? Maybe any hints?
Jens
Re: Wavetable - Add To Matrix broken?
I just found out, it seems to be broken since Beta in January?!
That makes me wonder, how Push is prioritized, since there was already a firmware update since the L12 release for Push3
That makes me wonder, how Push is prioritized, since there was already a firmware update since the L12 release for Push3
Re: Wavetable - Add To Matrix broken?
It’s been fixed for L12.0.1 if I remember correctly, so it should work.
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Re: Wavetable - Add To Matrix broken?
I can confirm this is an issue on my standalone as well. Was working fine since before the update. In a desperate attempt, I tried resetting my push, reauthorized; but the issue persists. Seems like a big oversight imo
EDIT: this seems to be affecting Meld as well
EDIT: this seems to be affecting Meld as well
Re: Wavetable - Add To Matrix broken?
Then I guess you're seeing this with Roar too.
Which version are you using exactly?
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Re: Wavetable - Add To Matrix broken?
Push version : 2.0.2
Live 12 suite: 12.0.2
Firmware: 1.4.0
And you are correct, seems to be affecting Roar as well
Live 12 suite: 12.0.2
Firmware: 1.4.0
And you are correct, seems to be affecting Roar as well
Re: Wavetable - Add To Matrix broken?
Weird. The bug was here until the very end of the beta pre v2.0 release but was fixed in time and I definitely remember checking and confirming the fix was working.palebluebot wrote: ↑Wed Apr 24, 2024 6:30 pmPush version : 2.0.2
Live 12 suite: 12.0.2
Firmware: 1.4.0
And you are correct, seems to be affecting Roar as well
You're seeing this in both Standalone and Tethered?
I can't check myself atm as I'm not with my Push, but go ahead and drop a line to Support.
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Re: Wavetable - Add To Matrix broken?
I tested it in Control mode(I'm guessing this is Tethered mode?) after seeing your reply. Add to Matrix seemed to be working as expected. I got curious and put it in standalone immediately. Surprisingly, Add to Matrix seems to be working fine in standalone as well. So it looks like somehow connecting to live in control mode has resolved the issue - very curious.[jur] wrote: ↑Wed Apr 24, 2024 9:44 pm
Weird. The bug was here until the very end of the beta pre v2.0 release but was fixed in time and I definitely remember checking and confirming the fix was working.
You're seeing this in both Standalone and Tethered?
I can't check myself atm as I'm not with my Push, but go ahead and drop a line to Support.
Fwiw, the update to Push standalone was done over WiFi. Also something to note is before this, to fix the issue, I tried putting Push in control mode(albeit not connected to my computer) and back into standalone which did not work. So i guess connecting it to my laptop was essential is fixing the problem
Re: Wavetable - Add To Matrix broken?
I have/had the similar observations. I had the issue, did tons of tests, filmed a video, reported it to Ableton.
I then switched over to Controller Mode, to be able to continue to make music. The answer arrived, asking for more infos, because he could not recreate it. So I switched back to Standalone, and was not able to reproduce it again.
Today, I had the same issue again. But this time, working in controller mode did not fix the issue (Tried just switching mode as well as connecting to computer with A12 running and doing some "controlling". Both didn't have a healing effect. I am not able to add anything to the Matrix in any Wavetable instance
I then switched over to Controller Mode, to be able to continue to make music. The answer arrived, asking for more infos, because he could not recreate it. So I switched back to Standalone, and was not able to reproduce it again.
Today, I had the same issue again. But this time, working in controller mode did not fix the issue (Tried just switching mode as well as connecting to computer with A12 running and doing some "controlling". Both didn't have a healing effect. I am not able to add anything to the Matrix in any Wavetable instance
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Re: Wavetable - Add To Matrix broken?
I was just about to post this. Seems like the problem's back. Tried resolving as mentioned above but no diceWyrmberg wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2024 9:24 amToday, I had the same issue again. But this time, working in controller mode did not fix the issue (Tried just switching mode as well as connecting to computer with A12 running and doing some "controlling". Both didn't have a healing effect. I am not able to add anything to the Matrix in any Wavetable instance
Seems like a very tricky issue
Re: Wavetable - Add To Matrix broken?
Ok, that's very surprising but at least we're seeing a bit of a pattern here.
Could you all please file to Support please?
Could you all please file to Support please?
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Re: Wavetable - Add To Matrix broken?
I've contacted support and they've replied with this
That IF is pretty encouraging having wavetable on the push 3 was kind of a selling point to me... I hope this answer is motivated by some major update in the works and not by the fact that they simply aren't planning on fixing a pretty obvious and serious bug...yet the wording leaves much to be desired from a customer's perspective... it's not a free app... it's a freaking 2000€ instrument...Hi {redacted},
Thanks for the description. We are already aware of this Push issue with matrix mapping and it's filed in our system.
Unfortunately, I can't tell if or when the bug will be fixed in the future.
I'd set your ticket on hold for now. This means you'll be informed automatically as soon as there is any news on the subject.
I still want to thank you for reporting, as you are actively helping make Live a better program.
Should you have other problems or questions, feel free to come back at any time!
All the best,
{redacted}
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Re: Wavetable - Add To Matrix broken?
i had the same problem after 2.0.2 update and contacted support 3rd may and they answered:
"Hi,
We will forward your case to our Warranty team who will get back to you with further steps shortly.
All the best,
Technical Support Agent"
of course no one cared or answered since then, so i flashed back the older 2.0.0 firmware and "add to matrix" is working again on all synths.
greetings robi
"Hi,
We will forward your case to our Warranty team who will get back to you with further steps shortly.
All the best,
Technical Support Agent"
of course no one cared or answered since then, so i flashed back the older 2.0.0 firmware and "add to matrix" is working again on all synths.
greetings robi