dude, I've been using bomes since 2001. I use it every time I open Live, I know f12, shift tab, alt tab, etc. As I mentioned in my post, like Rab, I use it to delete clips I'm recording on the fly in Live 3. Bomes means shit to me when the clip isn't selected on launch. Most people here (you included?) just found out about Bomes from the kid beyond video, and I'm happy for you, but as Astar noted, it is idiotic they put that out now when they've made it all but impossible to delete clips on the fly. Yeah, Bome's works fine in 2 and 3, and I'll still be giggin with it, but Live should just freeking make a midi mappable delete function, it can't be that hard. Do that, bring back select on launch, voila, worlds best looper.'ben_blue wrote:as far as the midi mapping to see clips' properties..
i know some know...but just wanted to calrify, at least until the wonderful abes change it,
Bomes' translator works perfect, is easy, and TINY. the F12 key toggles between clip properties and track FX view! Try it! If u dont have Bomes, go get it now, and thank me later! Its free - go google it! so u can make your midi key translate to F12 (or any other keystroke or sequence of em....
and yes it still stinks you cant select on launch via midi, as expected.
im sure if we all continually rally behind it, very nicely, they will listen and adapt it.
/ben
Great point, giving even further support to our cause. I do live looping, so I'm always making new clips, never triggering any, but given what you describe I can see that your workflow is even more impeded than mine by this, especially since the new clip transport midi mappable functions are always applied to the selected clip ONLY. It like you may as well lose the ability to trigger clips with MIDI/key assignments, since you have to click on it with the mouse just to select the damn clip. Geez, I see what your describing as even more universally annoying than my live looping problem. Like you said, it seems like a software oxymoron to introduce midi mappable clip controls and make them only apply to the selected clip, but to then remove the "select on launch" feature to INHERENTLY bring the damn mouse back into the equation.nyc_mark wrote:Can anyone think why Ableton might have removed this much needed feature? I myself love that they added more mapable buttons, for example the loop button on a clip, now I can assign a key for looping and kinda use that key as a hold or latch button after I trigger the sample. Only freaking problem is this isn't practical(won't work) without Select on Launch!! If I fire off a clip not using the mouse and then hit my assignment for the loop button I'm turning it on for the last selected clip, f@#k!!! Why would you make assignable clip buttons when the clip you triggered is not in focus, makes no sense, specially since there assigned on a basis of clip selected and not per clip. I would go back to 3.0 but then I would not have the mappable loop button.
True. A slight workaround you probably already know for clips that are already playing is to just re-trigger it with your assigned midi/key command, which selects it. Oopps, thats only up til version 3robtronik wrote:Yep, yep. This is the one. I'd be VERY happy if this was the case.sweetjesus wrote:would be nice to be able to assign a midi note on/off as a trigger source for a 'modifier' which if pressed would let you just "select" the clip only instead of actually triggering it to play.
rob.
right. but that isn't an option for playing whole songs in a clip while DJing... definitely don't want to restart the song from the beginning....quandry wrote:True. A slight workaround you probably already know for clips that are already playing is to just re-trigger it with your assigned midi/key command, which selects it. Oopps, thats only up til version 3robtronik wrote:Yep, yep. This is the one. I'd be VERY happy if this was the case.sweetjesus wrote:would be nice to be able to assign a midi note on/off as a trigger source for a 'modifier' which if pressed would let you just "select" the clip only instead of actually triggering it to play.
rob.
agreed agreed agreed.robtronik wrote:right. but that isn't an option for playing whole songs in a clip while DJing... definitely don't want to restart the song from the beginning....quandry wrote:True. A slight workaround you probably already know for clips that are already playing is to just re-trigger it with your assigned midi/key command, which selects it. Oopps, thats only up til version 3robtronik wrote: Yep, yep. This is the one. I'd be VERY happy if this was the case.
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