using FCB1010 with LIVE

[borg]

Borg, I think the file may have come from a mac originally? They don't have .file extensions. Are they .doc files from msword or something?

yep, these are .txt files (simpletext) done on mac (os9.2.2). i'll see when i can do something about it.

[Machinate]

nah don't worry about it. I tried adding the .txt extension manually, and it worked, no problem!

I just imported them into word and they're ready to print.

Thanks, I'll give it a good read the next time I'm on the train

[Meef Chaloin]

borg, i started to set up my new FCB1010 last night, thought i was going to go mad until i read your tutorial. It seems so simple once you learn a few things. I haven't got to the end of your article but it was such a big help, thankyou very much!

[feyshay]

yo, don't just listen to farts... record them!
do a search, you'll come up with tons of info (so many times asked) or download a summary i made, and read it thru...

Borg, I could not open that summary. I dread working further on this 1010. It is not user friendly to setup. I have a PC. Could you put it into a word document or cut and paste it into a reply.
Thanks a lot.

[borg]

sorry about that. and can't do much at the moment.
have you tried to put a .txt extension behind the unzipped file? it seemed to work for machinate (see a few posts above). if not, i'll try and look into it when i can.

[Meef Chaloin]

yo, don't just listen to farts... record them!
do a search, you'll come up with tons of info (so many times asked) or download a summary i made, and read it thru...

Borg, I could not open that summary. I dread working further on this 1010. It is not user friendly to setup. I have a PC. Could you put it into a word document or cut and paste it into a reply.
Thanks a lot.

doesnt it ask you if you want to choose a program to open it with? Choose a wordpad of some kind & you should be able to open it.

[elt.net]

hi,

how to change preset in live with the fcb1010 ?
somebody knows ?


thx.
f.

[feyshay]

I wrote the following, swearing at the 1010. Then I just noticed that I had the MIDI cable into the MIDI input on the 1010. I decided to send this off just for kicks.


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I've read the manual and read the manual above. I turned direct select off. Then I programmed Patch 3 in Bank 2.
I pressed the down button for 3 seconds until green LED blinked under preset config. I pressed up to select 6 (pressing 6 for 3 seconds and then pressing 6 again so that 6 was blinking). Then I pressed up again and entered 102. Pressed up again and entered "127". Pressed up again and then down for 3 seconds to store.
Then I used MIDI map in Live, pressed a track button and got nothing.
WTF!?
I've had the Trigger Finger and O2 working. Can't seem to get this working. Will I have to sell this thing on Ebay?
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[Robeatnik]

thanks, great instructions. the behringer manual might as well have been for the mars rover for all it helped me.

the only problem I'm still having is setting up the exp pedals for anything, I went through your set up a few times but I couldn't get it to work. Any tips & help?

[dbolt]

Same here Borg your summary was great. Works like a charm makes this foot controller well worth it. But as with the exp pedals can't get them mapped to any controller in Live 5.....Tried several times nothing. I tried to check the midi channel but couldnt do that in global mode it wouldnt show the channel for the expression pedals.... What gives any help?

Thanks

[Machinate]

they're probably not assigned to any controllers - you need to do that first, and that's probably why you couldn't see the midi channels.

[gregmcnichol]

thanks, great instructions. the behringer manual might as well have been for the mars rover for all it helped me.

the only problem I'm still having is setting up the exp pedals for anything, I went through your set up a few times but I couldn't get it to work. Any tips & help?

I had problems setting up my pedals before when i first bought it also i set it up just like the summary said but got nothing, finally i did osmethingl ike reset the 1010's settings osme combonation of buttons wile turning the board on after doing that the pedals worked fine

[computo]

yo call behringer man

What kind of assjob response is that?

Why not just abstain from replying?

[D K]

you have to enable the expression pedals to work with every preset you create...
so, when you set up switch 1, you have to enable the expression pedals for that preset. bit painful to navigate, but once you have it it's just a series of commands to get the entire thing set.
i have to re-program mine this week....fun...the zip downloaded fine for me.
it'll be good to jog my memory. in fact...here you go...

First off--global settings. This is where you make choices that
effect all of your patches (patch=preset). Midi devices send and
recieve midi data on midi channels. there are 16 midi channels
availible to any midi device, no more no less. think of these like tv
channels, If Live is "watching" midi channel 1 for midi info, midi
data sent to live from 1010 on midi channel 6 won't be recieved. One
difference in the midi world and the tv analogy is that some midi
devices (or midi software, Live included) "listen" for midi info on
all 16 channels (often called omni mode). Back to the 1010 global--it
is here that you set up what midi channel different midi commands are
sent on (for example you could assing one exp pedal to always send
info on midi channel 5, and exp pedal B to always send on midi
channel 16). However, for simplification and ease of use, you want to
set it up co that all midi data is sent on one channel. Here's how:

hold "down" for a few seconds while powering up. This enters global
setup mode. If the light on footswitch 10/0 is lit, press it and hold
for a second to make the light go away. The reason for this is as
follows. There are two ways to select patches on the 1010-direct
select or bank mode. Direct select means that you simply "type" the
patch number with you feet, choosing any patch between 1-100 (to
choose patch 23 for example, you would hit "2" then "3", as soon as
you hit 3 it will jump to patch 23). This is okay, but bank mode is
more useful. In bank mode, ther are ten banks of ten presets. If you
are on bank 01 for instance, each of the pedals 1-10 instanly calls
up a patch (this is quicker than always hitting at least two pedals
to call up a patch in d.select mode). YOu switch between the ten
banks by pressing the up and down buttons. So making the light above
switch 10/0 go off upon entering global setup will put you in bank
mode, sweet. Now lets get back to the midi channels. Press "up" once,
the midi function led starts flasahing. now hit pedal "1", it
flashes, press "up/enter" and the light on pedal one should stay lit,
and a number should flash in the display. This flashing number is the
midi channel info is being sent on. If it isn't "01" then hit the "0"
then "1" pedals to make it read "01", then press up/enter to confirm.
Now the configuration LED lights up, hit "up" a few more times to get
back to the "midi function" LED flashing. Now repeat the exact same
proceedure for pedal "2". hit pedal 2, it flashes, press "up/enter"
and the light on pedal one should stay lit, and a number should flash
in the display. This flashing number is the midi channel info is
being sent on. If it isn't "01" then hit the "0" then "1" pedals to
make it read "01", then press up/enter to confirm. Then hit up a few
times to get back to midi function LED flashing, and repeat again
until each of the pedals 1-10 is sending out midi on channel 01. When
that is done, and your back to a flashing "configuration" LED--are
any pedal lights lit? If not, then hold "8" until it is lit--this
allows midi data coming in to fcb1010 to merge with 1010 data going
out--this will help if you are plugging ox8 into 1010 with midi
cable, then 1010 into usb interface. If thats not the plan, then get
it to where no pedals are lit when "config" LED is flashing. Exit
global setup mode with a long "down"press.

Now on to midi. The 1010 sends 3 basic types of midi commands.
PRogram change commands are used to instantly select a patch on a
midi keyboard or sound module. Sending a program change of "112"
command will tell whatever device is listening to go to patch 112.
Program change commands do nothing in Live so you won't be needing
those. Second, and most important are control change commands. ccc's
are midi commands that are used to virtuallly turn knobs, move
sliders, turn things on and off, etc. They can be used two ways with
the 1010--to send a fixed command (like turning on an effect, or
instanly switching the pan knob to a desired location), or to send a
range of commands with an expression pedal (so that you can use the
exp like a volume or pan knob, or more creativly in Live assign it to
the cutoff on the auto filter for a wah type pedal, or to other
effect parameters--thus allowing you via the exp pedal to manipulated
the sound in real time). So there are two parts to any midi ccc--what
it is controlling (volume, pan, effect parameter, etc.
) and what the command will do to what it is contolling (for example.
a fixed ccc might turn the volume to a certain level, while the exp
pedal will change the volume with each discrete movement of the exp
pedal.). So whereas program change commands are simply one number
(patch 112, or patch 23) ccc's need to send two or more numbers-first
a number that selects what parameter is to be manipulated (volume,
pan, etc.), and second a number to which the "knob" will be tuned to
(if sending a "fixed" ccc), or if using an exp pedal, a range of
numbers will be sent. There are 127 (1-127) possible contol change
channels (the first number, which selects volume or pan or whatever),
and also 127 (1-127) possible settings on any given "knob" (for
example, if controlling volume 1=no sound, 127=max volume). The third
type of midi info sent by 1010 is note on/off, which is just like it
sounds. YOu are either turning on a midi note (the same as hitting a
key on a midi keyboard), or turning it off. YOu can use these midi
signals most usefully in Live as a way to have a 1010 patch that
turns something on when you hit it, turns it off when you hit it
again, turns it back on when you hit it a third time, off the
fourth......

Back to the 1010 patches. NOw we're in bank mode, the led display
will read 01 if your in bank 1, or 02 in bank 2, on up to bank 10. In
any given bank, all 10 pedals are each individual patches, giving you
10 patches, each a single button press away. So lets go to bank 02,
and edit patch 3. Use up or down buttons to make the number display
read 02 (bank 2), and then hit the "3" pedal--it should light up--
this means you have selected patch 3 in bank 2. Now hold "down" for a
few seconds to enter programming mode.Now you are in programming mode
for that singular patch. Each of the 10 pedals now represent midi
data that you can choose to send (or not to send) for that one
specific patch. If none of the pedals are lit, then that patch will
not send any midi data at all when you hit the pedal in normal bank
mode (not programming mode). For each individual patch in programming
mode, Pedals 1-5 send program change commands exclusively, which do
nothing in Live that i can tell, so for all of your patches that you
use, you wan't NONE of the 1-5 lights lit up when in programming
mode.

Pedals 6 and 7 send "fixed" ccc's. If you want to send a fixed ccc on
a patch you are editing (lets use pedal "6"), hold "6" until the
light comes on, then tap it to make the light flash. Confirm that you
are about to edit by pressing "up/enter". Now a number is displayed--
this is the control change channel--it determines what is going to be
manipulated (volume, pan, effect parameters, etc.) With a keyboard or
midi sound module, you have to read the keyboards manual and find out
what control change channel volume is on (usually 07), then tell the
1010 to send out a c.c.command on c.c.channels 07. HOwever with Live,
life is easier because you can arbitrarily assign any c.c.channel to
any knob or effect parameter in Live--the only catch is to make sure
there are no overlaps. For instance, if you assinged a patch to turn
Lives master volume to a fixed place on c.c.channel 54, but also had
another different patch where you turn the auto filter on using
c.c.channel 54, whenever you hit either of those patches, it would
manipulate both the master volume and the auto filter, so one and
only one c.c.channel per thing in Live that you wish to manipulate
with 1010. So back to our patch. YOu hit up/enter to confirm that we
are editing the midi control change command sent, and a number
started flashing. Lets make that number 101 (hit "1" then "0"
then "1") just for fun. then hit up/enter to confirm. now another
number flashes--this number represents the value of the controle
change 1-127 (like 0=minimum, 127=maximum). SOmetimes a control
change is used to simply turn things on or off, like stating
recording of a clip in live. Since these types of commands are
usually on or off, they are not like a volume knob. Therefore, often
a range of control change values will have the same effect (it is
common for ccvalues 1-63 to turn something off, while values 64-127
turn it on). back to the patch. Lets choose 127, as we are making a
patch to record a clip in live, and it wants any number from 64-127.
hit "1" then "2" then 7" and the confirm with up/enter. NOw the "6"
light should be lit. If any other lights are lit besides 6, hold them
until they shut off. Now exit programming mode with a long "down"
press, and we should be back to bank 02, with the "3" pedal lit up.
Patch 3 on bank 2 is now programmed to send a control change command
on control change channel 102, with a control change value of 127. In
live go to edit midi map, and mouse click on a clip slot on a track.
then hit your patch on the 1010 (just hit "3"). a number should
appear in live. Now exit the midi map in live. now hit you patch
again ("3") and recording should start in the clip slot (if you are
quantizing, you'll need to start playback then hit you patch). hit
your patch again to stop the clip from recording and loop it. See my
previous messages for quantiztion info.

Say you wanted to edit an expression pedal of a patch. lets do patch
4 in bank 2. with 02 showing (means your in bank 2), hit pedal "4".
you just selected that patch. now hold "down" for a bit to enter
programming mode. Hold down the pedals that have lights lit until all
pedal lights are out. now hold down "8" until it is lit, then tap it
to make it flash. then hit up/enter to confirm you're about to edit
exp pedal "a" for this patch (exp. pedal b is controlled by "9" is
the same way exp pedal a is controlled by "8"). First select the
control change channel the pedal will send info on (1-127)--lets
choose 98--hit "9" then "8" then up/enter to confirm. Now another
number is flashing--this is the lowest range your pedal will send, if
we using this as a volume pedal, and we want it to go all the way to
silence, choose "00" here (by hitting "0" then "0"). if we want the
volume to not fully cut off when the pedal is fully back choose a
value higher, like 28. confirm your choice by pressing up/enter. now
yet another number appears--this is the upper range of the exp.
pedal. If we want to be able to go to full volume, choose 127 then
up/enter to confirm. NOw the "8" light should be lit. hold "down" to
exit programming mode, and were back to bank 02, patch 4. now when
you select patch 4 in bank 2 on the 1010 (by simply hittin "4" while
in bank 02) the exp pedal A is will send control change commands on
control change channel 98, when fully back the pedal will transmit a
signal of 28 (or whatever you chose), and when fully forward it will
send a value of 127 (max). It will smoothly glide between these two
values as you rock exp pedal a back and forth. now all thats left is
to tell Live what to do with this midi information. Goto edit midi
map in live, and click on a fader of a track. then hit your 1010
patch (just hit "4"). numbers should appear in Live. exit edit midi
map in live. now try rocking the exp pedal a back and forth while a
clip plays or while you play your intrument on that track--should act
as a volume pedal.

One other thing i forgot to mention was the use of midi note
on/off. When in programming mode for a patch, pedals 1-5 are used
for midi
program change signal, 6-7 are used to send "fixed" control change
commands,
8-9 are used with exp pedals to send variable ccc's, and pedal 10 is
used to
send note on/off. If you hold down "10" while in programming mode
for a
patch, then tap it to make it flash, then press up/enter to confirm
editing--now a number should flash--this number represents a midi
note. I
use either the lowest numbers or highest numbers--these represent the
lowest
and highest keys on a keyboard. I use these to control things in
Live with
1010 so that when playing the keyboard, I am unlikely to accidentally
turn
something on or off in Live as I rarely play in those regions of the
keyboard. So, choose a number low or high, and press up.enter to
confirm.
Then a long "down" press to exit programming mode. Now that patch
will sen
midi note on when you hit it (it will turn something on in Live once
oyou
assign it) and midi note off when you hit it again (turning whatever
off in
Live). If you hit it again its back on, a fourth time its off again,
and so
on. Use this to make patches that turn effects on a off, or turn
monitoring
for a channel on and off. What is useful about midi note on/off is
that one
patch pedal can be use to turn an effect on and off, just like a
guitar
stomp box pedal, whereas you would need two 1010 patches using ccc's
to turn
a device on and off (though you could use a patch with an exp. pedal
sending
cccs that would turn something on when the pedal is forward, and off
when
back). Now that you're off and running, the sky is the limit.
Both the
1010 and Live are so flexible, just about anything can be
accomplished. One
other thing to note, and given 1010 patch can send many midi signals
at
once--i.e. when in programming mode for a specific patch, you might
end up
with lights 6-10 light up for a patch (though unlikely). More likely
might
be a patch that uses note on/off to turn on the auto filter, and has
one exp
pedal assinged to the freq., and another to the "q" (resonance). Hit
that
patch, the auto filter turns on, and the pedals are ready to tweak
the
filter.
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great tutorial!!!!
thanks borg!!!
doug

[LOFA]

I'm choking up with tears as we speak Borg!
This is such a beautiful thing you did... I have been sitting on my FCB1010 since september without a chance to use it, and now, on my last night before I go back to my disgusting schedule I am going to learn this (spoken in a very proud assumptuosu tone.)

So, Happy New Year Fellow!

(these boots were made for walking...)