Ableton Roadmap
Ableton Roadmap
I wish for a public roadmap outlining what may be coming in future versions and at what date.
Some companies go this route such as Fruity
http://www.fruityloops.com/documents/SUB_103.html
or Intel - http://www.intel.com/products/roadmap/
Obviously a company likeAbleton wouldnt spell out it's top new secret ideas, but rough indicators of new functions and when they are coming in Live.
Something like this :
2005 - second quarter : Live 4.5 released.
Features : Show/ hide track groups, movable FX return tracks
2005 - 4th quarter: Live 5
Features : Multi session loading in the new 'sessionpane' , Altivec support, new timestretching / pitch engine 'Elomynde'
2006 - 1st quarter .
nothing left to add, retire.
Ah, my happy fantasies
Some companies go this route such as Fruity
http://www.fruityloops.com/documents/SUB_103.html
or Intel - http://www.intel.com/products/roadmap/
Obviously a company likeAbleton wouldnt spell out it's top new secret ideas, but rough indicators of new functions and when they are coming in Live.
Something like this :
2005 - second quarter : Live 4.5 released.
Features : Show/ hide track groups, movable FX return tracks
2005 - 4th quarter: Live 5
Features : Multi session loading in the new 'sessionpane' , Altivec support, new timestretching / pitch engine 'Elomynde'
2006 - 1st quarter .
nothing left to add, retire.
Ah, my happy fantasies
Coming from the standpoint of a coder / developer, this would prob not be wise, as they would be in effect promising customers certain features/upgrades etc and would create expectations which they may not be able to meet - developing software involves a lot of unforseeable problems/issues so, although it would be nice for us, I dont think it would bgood for the Abes .
I just think we could save a few pixels on pleading
imagine if they are working on EG : Altivec support . Projected completion 2006.
Would stating that put any more pressure on Ableton than the current amount of pressure via these forums on this issue, which I imagine is about as strong as the user community could make it.
Same for contentious issues (such as MP3 / OGG support).
A long run up between announcement of intent and release would take some heat out of the eventual release inclusion.
Ableton might even learn something from listening to the response from their wider public on issues currently under consideration. Lets face it we are their customers. I built & ran a whole load of sites for EMI/Virgin and one atom of sense I beat into them over time was to listen to the damn user community concensus - it pays big money & also helps avoid costly flops.
imagine if they are working on EG : Altivec support . Projected completion 2006.
Would stating that put any more pressure on Ableton than the current amount of pressure via these forums on this issue, which I imagine is about as strong as the user community could make it.
Same for contentious issues (such as MP3 / OGG support).
A long run up between announcement of intent and release would take some heat out of the eventual release inclusion.
Ableton might even learn something from listening to the response from their wider public on issues currently under consideration. Lets face it we are their customers. I built & ran a whole load of sites for EMI/Virgin and one atom of sense I beat into them over time was to listen to the damn user community concensus - it pays big money & also helps avoid costly flops.
Nope, exactly the opposite.Roadmaps aren't cast in iron. As a date aproaches and a software team feels they can't meet the deadline - the datepoint is moved. This is generally an incremental process.
EG: if Altivec dev. wasnt going too well, they might shift if from 'quarter 3 2006' to 'quarter 4 2006'.
A lot of the fuss was due to a perception of Ableton not focusing on whatever area of concern was formost in peoples minds.
What happened there was- everyone imagined their favourite thing they wanted in Live .. and Operator was none of them!
Unless someone was wishing for an integrated 4-op FM synth ?
if the roadmap for 2005 lookedlike this from 6 months ago, would there have been as much fuss?
2005: Q2
New softsynth : Operator
Live version 4.2 : upgrade to 'missing sample' search
: audio encoding upgrades
: upgrade to session track visibility
: 'Project notes' function
it's nebulous enough to still provide hype on release, but reasuring enough that people dont feel that company resources are focussed in the wrong areas. If Operator was seen from 6 months ago as a softsynth rather than a "Great new mystery feature coming soon to Live!!! "
The anger would have been much much less.
EG: if Altivec dev. wasnt going too well, they might shift if from 'quarter 3 2006' to 'quarter 4 2006'.
That initial backlash happened because they DIDNT tell their customers what they were releasing!12micsn1: ... A backlash something similiar to what happend with the introduction of Operator.
A lot of the fuss was due to a perception of Ableton not focusing on whatever area of concern was formost in peoples minds.
What happened there was- everyone imagined their favourite thing they wanted in Live .. and Operator was none of them!
Unless someone was wishing for an integrated 4-op FM synth ?
if the roadmap for 2005 lookedlike this from 6 months ago, would there have been as much fuss?
2005: Q2
New softsynth : Operator
Live version 4.2 : upgrade to 'missing sample' search
: audio encoding upgrades
: upgrade to session track visibility
: 'Project notes' function
it's nebulous enough to still provide hype on release, but reasuring enough that people dont feel that company resources are focussed in the wrong areas. If Operator was seen from 6 months ago as a softsynth rather than a "Great new mystery feature coming soon to Live!!! "
The anger would have been much much less.
nah, that takes all the excitement out of it.
you'd lose that 2 weeks of fury filled forum fodder.... "what is operator", "operator sucks", and lastly "i'm so sorry, i love operator"
i loved that.
re: Intel's roadmap. That thing is the second most useless roadmap in the market, right behind MS's Longhorn roadmap.
you'd lose that 2 weeks of fury filled forum fodder.... "what is operator", "operator sucks", and lastly "i'm so sorry, i love operator"
i loved that.
re: Intel's roadmap. That thing is the second most useless roadmap in the market, right behind MS's Longhorn roadmap.
well - the roadmap is nowhere near the top of my wishlist, just an idea. So I hearby give Ableton permission to not have one.
re: Longhorn roadmap
I'll see you and raise ...
Duke Nukem Forever
re: Longhorn roadmap
I'll see you and raise ...
Duke Nukem Forever
a roadmap would be great!
they wouldn't even have to name dates or reveal all new stuff.
just the announcement that certain features will be included in the next major update would be enough.
it would retain the anticipation, since we won't know exactly when to expect it. but it would keep some of us from switching back to their old sequencing apps.
they wouldn't even have to name dates or reveal all new stuff.
just the announcement that certain features will be included in the next major update would be enough.
it would retain the anticipation, since we won't know exactly when to expect it. but it would keep some of us from switching back to their old sequencing apps.
I can give you 1 simple explanation why Ableton doesn't participate in the forum more often.
They just don't have the time. Those guys and girls are working really hard.
They don't tell you on what, because if they cant finish it in time.... People get nasty and disappointed.
People can post the same request a 100 times. But that wont make the development go any faster.
If i where Ableton. I wouldn't reveal a roadmap. Because people would just copy their ideas. Live is a unique piece of software. So every aspect of the application has to be well thought of.
Roadmaps of intel? I don't need to see one to tell you that they are working on chips.
Duke nukem? What are they working on now? A ray-gun that turns people into banana's?
In a world full of corporate spy's. It would be stupid to post you plans on a website....To be googled by anybody.
Just my 0.02€
They just don't have the time. Those guys and girls are working really hard.
They don't tell you on what, because if they cant finish it in time.... People get nasty and disappointed.
People can post the same request a 100 times. But that wont make the development go any faster.
If i where Ableton. I wouldn't reveal a roadmap. Because people would just copy their ideas. Live is a unique piece of software. So every aspect of the application has to be well thought of.
Roadmaps of intel? I don't need to see one to tell you that they are working on chips.
Duke nukem? What are they working on now? A ray-gun that turns people into banana's?
In a world full of corporate spy's. It would be stupid to post you plans on a website....To be googled by anybody.
Just my 0.02€
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Also, if you look at this with your marketing glasses on, if you state what the new features are, the competition will pick it up, maybe even relase some of the good ideas before your product. Then your product is not selling that well, less money, less budget to hire more engineers to do cool stuff... --Kent