Aspartame, MSG, Fluoride

[Emissary]

fluoride is basically a population control drug. It was used to lower the aggression of the jews in nazi germany (the first time it was used) and is still used today. It simply has the effect of making the drinker docile and easily controlled. It has no link to increased tooth and gum health what so ever.

And lack of fluoride leads to paranoia and conspiracy theories...

that cut me really deep, but thanks and have a nice life. i love the way any attempt to gain knowledge nowadays is seen as a conspiracy theory. This population really is beyond retarded.

[knotkranky]

And, stay far away from flu shots, especially small kids. A recent case was won as it causes autism.

sorry but this is not shown by any evidence. A recent Danish study of 500000 children showed zero link.

im not quite sure why some people get so excited about this particular conspiracy theory.

broad overview: http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/5784.php

a lot of ignorant parents believe this stuff, and expose their kids to far greater risks by not having shots.

No no no, other way around my friend. No one in my very healthy family and millions of others have ever recieved a flu shot. They are nasty.

No entity puts out more propaganda than the medical establishment with its army of lobbyists, lawyers and fake scientists. FDA is the worst.

This shit is gonna look like blood letting in the next 50 years

At least read the bold bit in the quote.

Why I Never Get Flu Shots

by Chet Day
Reprinted with permission from Chet Day's Health & Beyond

Every year about this time, quite a few people write me and ask, "My Doctor tells me to get my annual flu shot. Should I do it?"

Well, I don't diagnose or prescribe, and what you do with your body remains entirely up to you and your doctor (if you still go to a doctor), but I'll gladly tell you what I do regarding flu shots...

I avoid them like the plague.

In fact, at age 52, I've never had a flu shot, and it would take a Marine nurse and at least four burly wrestlers the size of Jessie Ventura to hold me down and give me one.

Perhaps you already sense I have strong feelings about flu shots?

These feelings stem from personal opinion, reading, and dramatic personal experience.

First off, I don't think toxic chemicals and virus strains grown on living tissue belong in the human body, even when they're packaged in sterile glass vials.

Since my family and I don't rely on doctors anymore, I don't have access to an insert that reveals the composition of this year's flu vaccine, but I did find some general information at the Concerned Parents for Vaccine Safety web site, where I learned about some of the ingredients used to make vaccines.

Do you want any of the following vaccine constituents in YOUR bloodstream?

* Ethylene glycol (antifreeze)

* Phenol, also known as carbolic acid (this is used as a disinfectant, dye)

* Formaldehyde, a known cancer-causing agent

* Aluminum, which is associated with Alzheimer's disease and seizures and also cancer producing in laboratory mice (it is used as an additive to promote antibody response)

* Thimerosal (a mercury disinfectant/preservative) can result in brain injury and autoimmune disease

* Neomycin and Streptomycin (used as antibiotics) have caused allergic reaction in some people.

Vaccines are also grown and strained through animal or human tissue like monkey kidney tissue, chicken embryo, embryonic guinea pig cells, calf serum, and human diploid cells (the dissected organs of aborted human fetuses as in the case of rubella, hepatitis A, and chickenpox vaccines).

Well, I refuse to put all of the above in my body, and I hope when your doctor starts telling you it's time for your annual flu shot that you'll require him to defend the annual injection. You or your insurance company's probably paying eighty bucks for a visit, so get your money's worth.

Have your doctor read you the insert that comes with the vaccine.

Then have him/her explain why it makes sense to inject toxic chemicals into the human body and how such substances can aid the delicate immune system.

Chances are he/she will fall back on questionable statistical and demographic explanations that the medical establishment has used for decades to justify immunization.

Try to engage your doctor in a non-confrontational discussion because this is an opportunity for him/her to actually give some serious thought to what he/she is injecting into bodies of patients day after day after day.

Many traditional doctors who haven't studied diet and lifestyle aren't going to change unless we help to educate them to what drugs and vaccines may really be doing long-term to people.

Okay, to speak from personal experience for a moment, let's look over our shoulders to 1990, a time period before the Day family turned to natural methods of building health.

In February of 1990, right after my wife's major cancer surgery in January, her doctor recommended a flu shot.

Almost immediately after the injection, my wife started feeling ill.

Overnight she came down with the worst case of flu she'd ever had.

She went to bed and literally didn't get up again for more than a few hours at a time for years afterwards. Only now, almost a decade later, is she finally regaining full health and energy.

I don't have space or enough heart yet to tell my wife's entire story, though I'll do it one of these days, but if you'll click here, you can read an article written by another CFIDS sufferer, an article that shows the cause and effect connection between flu vaccines and terrible immune disorders.

Okay, I'm a realist so if was still thinking traditionally, part of me would almost buy into the typical rationale for flu vaccines, that so many people are spared the annual flu and only a few die or have their lives ruined after being injected.

I'd buy into that if I were convinced that injecting a filthy substance into the body actually made sense.

Unfortunately, once I stopped buying into the big medical lies about their drug, cut, and burn system, I started questioning all of it.

And when one digs into the vaccine history (check out the Swine Flu vaccine if you want a real horror story) and scientific research (especially in Europe), it quickly becomes apparent that nobody really knows what these toxic stews of chemicals and microorganisms do in the human body.

Well, readers and a few medical professionals have called me a simple-minded dolt on more than one occasion, but since 1993 I've approached the yearly flu shot hype with the understanding that if I eat and live properly, I won't have to worry about catching the flu.

The flu vaccine I use -- eating and living as close to nature as I can -- actually works.

Not only that, but it doesn't cost a dime, and nobody's going to have his/her life ruined because of a "bad batch" of vaccine that triggers some mysterious autoimmune disease that lays a person out of commission for years.

But let's say you don't want to eat and live close to nature.

Okay, I can understand that, but my next question would be "Which is better? Some rest time with the flu or having toxic chemicals injected into your bloodstream?"

I mean, seriously, before I got healthy I almost looked forward to a yearly bout with influenza because it meant I could go to bed and get some rest instead of working practically every waking moment of my life.

I might add that I haven't missed more than two consecutive days of work from an illness for almost five years, so a non-vaccine approach does work for me. This non-drug approach has resulted in a level of health that continually amazes me, especially when I see other men and women my age who are miserable and without energy. Men and women who spend all too much of their time drifting from doctor to doctor in endless pursuit of solutions that don't get to the cause of their problems -- diet and life style

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[forge]

a lot of ignorant parents believe this stuff, and expose their kids to far greater risks by not having shots.

emotionally involved mothers are the hardest people in the world to reason with, you can be the most rational, thorough and methodical researcher the world has ever known and it won't convince them

then give them the internet where there is terabytes of pages of studies misquoted and taken out of context and you have what is coming to be referred to as 'cybercondria'

personally I don;t know about the fluoride, but I know tooth problems seem to be far worse here in Queensland than other places where they have fluoride

and there have been loads of times where I felt a tooth starting to hurt and I gave it a good bit of extra tooth paste on top of usual and it seemed to get rid of it

[Machinesworking]

personally I don;t know about the fluoride, but I know tooth problems seem to be far worse here in Queensland than other places where they have fluoride

and there have been loads of times where I felt a tooth starting to hurt and I gave it a good bit of extra tooth paste on top of usual and it seemed to get rid of it

Here's the clincher though, how is fluoride going to help clean your teeth by you drinking it? It's really pretty stupid IMO. [/i]

[knotkranky]

personally I don;t know about the fluoride, but I know tooth problems seem to be far worse here in Queensland than other places where they have fluoride

and there have been loads of times where I felt a tooth starting to hurt and I gave it a good bit of extra tooth paste on top of usual and it seemed to get rid of it

Here's the clincher though, how is fluoride going to help clean your teeth by you drinking it? It's really pretty stupid IMO. [/i]

yeah, ain't that a kicker.

http://www.fluoridedebate.com/

[forge]

personally I don;t know about the fluoride, but I know tooth problems seem to be far worse here in Queensland than other places where they have fluoride

and there have been loads of times where I felt a tooth starting to hurt and I gave it a good bit of extra tooth paste on top of usual and it seemed to get rid of it

Here's the clincher though, how is fluoride going to help clean your teeth by you drinking it? It's really pretty stupid IMO. [/i]

yeah, ain't that a kicker.

http://www.fluoridedebate.com/

what about toothpaste if you don't swallow it?

[knotkranky]

Here's the clincher though, how is fluoride going to help clean your teeth by you drinking it? It's really pretty stupid IMO. [/i]

yeah, ain't that a kicker.

http://www.fluoridedebate.com/

what about toothpaste if you don't swallow it?

You absorb it through your mouth, it accumulates and it's difficult to detox. Fluoride free toothpaste is all I've ever used. Just stay away. Hell there's a warning fluoride toothpaste labels! wtf.

[knotkranky]

yeah, ain't that a kicker.

http://www.fluoridedebate.com/

what about toothpaste if you don't swallow it?

You absorb it through your mouth, it accumulates and it's difficult to detox. Fluoride free toothpaste is all I've ever used. Just stay away. Hell there's a warning on fluoride toothpaste labels! wtf.

[Anubis]

Flouride in drinking water is supposedly safe, only 1ppm concentration. BUT- you should only ingest it when your teeth are in the formative/mineralisation stage (until age 11 or so). Once enamel is mineralised it is not easy to demineralise except under extreme circumstances. Thats why teeth survive as fossils over tens of millions of years, more than any other animal tissue type. However, if you continue to drink it in your adult years then you do risk becoming a complacent drone.

Aspartame is nasty stuff and is secretly responsible for inc. cancer rates accross the board. I'm old enough to remeber that the clinical trials were wisked by the FDA in record time and nobody remembers that htey were funded and conducted by the manufacturer in the early eighties then they were immediately incorporated into all "diet" beverages in the blink of an eye. Nobody seemed to notice or care.

[suburbanbather]

I can't remember the last time I've had a flu shot. I've been off and on cigarettes since I was 13 and I'm 27 now. What I do and will always remember is that every year that I have not smoked during the tail end of the summer on to the end of fall, I have not got sick at all. Whenever I have smoked during that time frame, I get pretty sick for about a week. However, not sick enough to be in no condition to show up for work. Plus, If I do get sick, I get better in a couple days anyways.

Yea! Flu shots are a bunch of BS. Taking care of yourself is the most effective way to avoid illness. Anyone that says they don't have time to exercise is full of shit. It only takes 10-15 min. to warm up with some jumping jacks, do 20 push ups, leg lifts, and sit ups. That routine daily should keep anyone that does not have an eating disorder from getting a fat stomach and love handles.

I'm not much of a soda drinker at all. I'll have a rum or jack and coke once in a while at a bar/club, but I really prefer beer and I always take my coffee black. Oh and I've always weighed somewhere between 140 and 150 lbs. at 5'11" since I stopped growing.

The only time I really ever need to see my doctor is when I get back/neck problems because of my job to get a referral to see my chiropractor. Oh, my doctor always asks me if I need pain meds for back/neck pain relief. I always turn it down, because the visits to the chiropractor make the pain go away instantly, drug free of course!

[Forge.]

bit of a necrobump...

I just saw a Harvard study came out last year showing strong suggestion that fluoride can affect kids' IQ

http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/news/featur ... jean-choi/

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3491930/

The US government even recommended lowering the amount of fluoride in the water in 2011 - and here's the really twisted part: because it was harming children's teeth.

http://edition.cnn.com/2011/HEALTH/01/0 ... index.html

[Forge.]

http://www.fluoridedebate.com/

just having a look at this, on the first page I read it quoted several studies where fluoridation actually increased tooth decay!

http://www.fluoridedebate.com/question01.html

[d.reamonn]

You do realise there is a fluoride level that occurs in natural water ? Alot of US companys add it to the water and a few UK companys do. Luckily my water supplier doesnt add it but it does occur naturally.

Bait and switch. Sodium fluoride is not calcium fluoride. Not all vagina is the same.

[ekwipt]

"The fluoride myth in water was purported by the Evian water company since 1974 to drive more sales in the ailing brand in America."

[Forge.]

"The fluoride myth in water was purported by the Evian water company since 1974 to drive more sales in the ailing brand in America."

so... how about that Harvard study?