Which DJ software - Live, Traktor or summat else?
yeah, although i've tried djing in Live, i still prefer using Traktor. ideally i would like to sync Traktor and Live on two laptops for a nice set up.
for Traktor right now i'm using that Vestax VCI-100 which rocks, but before that i went through a few controllers, including my Axiom49 and the UC33e, or just plain QWERTY. you can totally control the crap out Traktor using the QWERTY keyboard. that is just not the route for me as I have hard time remembering what key does what
but going back to the UC33e, i used it without a problem... wondering what's your issues are?
for Traktor right now i'm using that Vestax VCI-100 which rocks, but before that i went through a few controllers, including my Axiom49 and the UC33e, or just plain QWERTY. you can totally control the crap out Traktor using the QWERTY keyboard. that is just not the route for me as I have hard time remembering what key does what
but going back to the UC33e, i used it without a problem... wondering what's your issues are?
also, for me it was very important to find the right controller for Traktor. with Live i could use any controller as long as it did what it's supposed to do. but with Traktor i needed something that felt as if Traktor was an actual hardware unit, you know what i mean? but before i realized that i always though "you know, i'll configure Traktor to work with my existing controllers coz i don't want to spend $ on something dedicated to it".
but that's my experience.
but that's my experience.
Kinda off topic a little bit but have just bought a zero 8 mixer ( boo hiss but hey the one I heard in the shp had no hiss and yes have have read all the different peoples grumbles but the demo unit I used rocked !!!!)
and want to incoprate Live 7 Traktor 3 and my Cd`s 1000 and technics mk2`s into the ultimate set up
My question to you learned people do I have to buy the whole NI interface PLUS the timecode records or Can I just buy the timecode records , cd`s and configure them through midi not needing the Traktor computer interface
Love L7 and will also be using it hopefully as a combo with traktor
Thanks for your patience reading this long wording and slightly of topic email and all advice is greatly appreciated !!!!!!!!!!!
and want to incoprate Live 7 Traktor 3 and my Cd`s 1000 and technics mk2`s into the ultimate set up
My question to you learned people do I have to buy the whole NI interface PLUS the timecode records or Can I just buy the timecode records , cd`s and configure them through midi not needing the Traktor computer interface
Love L7 and will also be using it hopefully as a combo with traktor
Thanks for your patience reading this long wording and slightly of topic email and all advice is greatly appreciated !!!!!!!!!!!
Pc Dual core 3gb Ram Live 8 ,Reason 4, Novation X station Akai MPC1000 Novation Nio2/4 M Audio BX 5 Korg Zero 8 Novation Nocturn & Launchpad
Been on live since version 2 but ableton forum has somehow only had me down as a user since 08 doh !
Been on live since version 2 but ableton forum has somehow only had me down as a user since 08 doh !
Re: Which DJ software - Live, Traktor or summat else?
I hear ya. I've been looking at Live for ages, but only since a month or two I'm thinking about using it for DJing.8O wrote:I feel I'm really trying to force Live to do something that it doesn't want to.
My number one concern was a good HUI / controller and I've almost got that nailed now...
Number two was the preparation that had to be done in advance and, like others have said before: Deckadance is part of the answer to that (and it'll give you some other advantages too).
IMHO Live still isn't the perfect DJ tool (one loop/clip? one active clip??), but it will let you do unique stuff if you can see through/work around its 'faults'.
oh, well, that's stupid...way to go NI...8O wrote:I was trying to use the UC-33e with Traktor LE. It doesn't work, in fact, it's not supported. But tried it with the full Traktor 3 and it works nicely now...roby wrote:...but going back to the UC33e, i used it without a problem... wondering what's your issues are?
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i am about ready to jump off the serato bandwagon myself unless they start addressing the midi clock or vst support
i want to have the best of both worlds with a comfortable and minimal setup.
i want to have the best of both worlds with a comfortable and minimal setup.
Stuff I actually use.
sound card, speakers, mic, MBP, Mighty Mouse, Ableton, Reason, iPad, iPhone,Touchable, Rebirth, & other apps.
Pair of Technics 1200's, and a Pioneer Mixer
sound card, speakers, mic, MBP, Mighty Mouse, Ableton, Reason, iPad, iPhone,Touchable, Rebirth, & other apps.
Pair of Technics 1200's, and a Pioneer Mixer
Hey Oblique - thanks for checking up! Yeah, I got Traktor (the full version) and I really like it. It's the perfect tool for the job i.e. just bog standard DJing, and some simple effects. Not in any way a substitute for Live for composition or live performance.
It's been rock solid for me, the midi-mapping has been flexible and the beat-matching has been pretty good. Also the control interface is nicely done in a way that minimises the chances of accidentally messing everything up (e.g. accidentally brushing space bar or double-clicking a track instead of single clicking won't result in a horrific silence).
There are still some really annoying little things with it, like the refusal to display special characters properly (it completely rejects my Russian mp3 with Cyrillic tags) and the install path is plain stupid on a mac. But still it's a nice little bit of software and I love using it.
(I only use it standalone (not rewired with Live, for example) so can't comment on how it works with other software. And no idea about the scratching performance.)
Hope that helps a little...
It's been rock solid for me, the midi-mapping has been flexible and the beat-matching has been pretty good. Also the control interface is nicely done in a way that minimises the chances of accidentally messing everything up (e.g. accidentally brushing space bar or double-clicking a track instead of single clicking won't result in a horrific silence).
There are still some really annoying little things with it, like the refusal to display special characters properly (it completely rejects my Russian mp3 with Cyrillic tags) and the install path is plain stupid on a mac. But still it's a nice little bit of software and I love using it.
(I only use it standalone (not rewired with Live, for example) so can't comment on how it works with other software. And no idea about the scratching performance.)
Hope that helps a little...
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I have 2 DJ setups.
1. M-Audio Torq Xponent w/ Torq v1.0.4 (traditional beatmatch mixing)
2. Live 7 w/ UC-33e, Trigger Finger, Axiom 25 w/ FireWire 410 (creative mixing)
I've been DJing for 11 years (vinyl, CD, etc) and it's nice to have something like Live to break off from the sometimes boring (to me) traditional mixing methods. Beatmatch mixing is lots of fun, but to some it gets old every now and then. That's where Live comes in. Also, both setups are very easy to pack away and travel with.
1. M-Audio Torq Xponent w/ Torq v1.0.4 (traditional beatmatch mixing)
2. Live 7 w/ UC-33e, Trigger Finger, Axiom 25 w/ FireWire 410 (creative mixing)
I've been DJing for 11 years (vinyl, CD, etc) and it's nice to have something like Live to break off from the sometimes boring (to me) traditional mixing methods. Beatmatch mixing is lots of fun, but to some it gets old every now and then. That's where Live comes in. Also, both setups are very easy to pack away and travel with.
15.4" MacBook Pro (Cooled By Me)
4GB RAM
320GB WD w/ miniXpress FW enclosure
OS X 10.5.3 & XP Pro
Torq 1.0.4 w/ Xponent
Live 7.0.7 w/ UC-33e, Trigger Finger, Axiom 25, FireWire 410
4GB RAM
320GB WD w/ miniXpress FW enclosure
OS X 10.5.3 & XP Pro
Torq 1.0.4 w/ Xponent
Live 7.0.7 w/ UC-33e, Trigger Finger, Axiom 25, FireWire 410
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Hi 80,8O wrote:Hey Oblique - thanks for checking up! Yeah, I got Traktor (the full version) and I really like it. It's the perfect tool for the job i.e. just bog standard DJing, and some simple effects. Not in any way a substitute for Live for composition or live performance.
It's been rock solid for me, the midi-mapping has been flexible and the beat-matching has been pretty good. Also the control interface is nicely done in a way that minimises the chances of accidentally messing everything up (e.g. accidentally brushing space bar or double-clicking a track instead of single clicking won't result in a horrific silence).
There are still some really annoying little things with it, like the refusal to display special characters properly (it completely rejects my Russian mp3 with Cyrillic tags) and the install path is plain stupid on a mac. But still it's a nice little bit of software and I love using it.
(I only use it standalone (not rewired with Live, for example) so can't comment on how it works with other software. And no idea about the scratching performance.)
Hope that helps a little...
Thanks for the mini-review. Seems like a good all around solution for basic DJ work.
Have you tried using it with any MIDI controllers yet?
How about changing skins -is it customizable, or are there enough skins available that you can easily find one you like?
When producing I use a variety of tools, but for DJ'ing I use Deckadance with a Novation Nocturn.
Deckadance is a no brainer, and I find the peakoscope really handy for beatmatching. Loading VST effects and tweaking them in real-time (things like filters, delays and choppers) simply can't be beat. All DJ apps should let you load VST effects.
Also, Live isn't aimed spoecifically at DJ's, its aimed at people who want to perform live music. Live lets you integrate existing audio (like a drumloop or an entire track) with something you're creating on the fly.
Thats where it's power is.
If you just want to DJ, then use a simple DJ app (like DD, Traktor, Serato, whatever). If you want to create and perform music while blurring the line between DJing and producing, use Live.
Deckadance is a no brainer, and I find the peakoscope really handy for beatmatching. Loading VST effects and tweaking them in real-time (things like filters, delays and choppers) simply can't be beat. All DJ apps should let you load VST effects.
Also, Live isn't aimed spoecifically at DJ's, its aimed at people who want to perform live music. Live lets you integrate existing audio (like a drumloop or an entire track) with something you're creating on the fly.
Thats where it's power is.
If you just want to DJ, then use a simple DJ app (like DD, Traktor, Serato, whatever). If you want to create and perform music while blurring the line between DJing and producing, use Live.
Yes, I use Traktor 3 with my UC-33e and it works very nicely. Pretty much every function you need can be midi-mapped or key-mapped. I just had the UC-33e controlling 3-Band EQ, x-fade, pitch and channel faders and it worked fine. I just use the laptop trackpad to select next track and set loop markers and everything else is controlled via the UC-33.oblique strategies wrote:Have you tried using it with any MIDI controllers yet?
How about changing skins -is it customizable, or are there enough skins available that you can easily find one you like?
No changeable skins though And I don't like factory skin, but I'm stuck with it. You get used to it, but I wish I didn't have to...
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Thanks again 80. Enjoy!8O wrote:Yes, I use Traktor 3 with my UC-33e and it works very nicely. Pretty much every function you need can be midi-mapped or key-mapped. I just had the UC-33e controlling 3-Band EQ, x-fade, pitch and channel faders and it worked fine. I just use the laptop trackpad to select next track and set loop markers and everything else is controlled via the UC-33.oblique strategies wrote:Have you tried using it with any MIDI controllers yet?
How about changing skins -is it customizable, or are there enough skins available that you can easily find one you like?
No changeable skins though And I don't like factory skin, but I'm stuck with it. You get used to it, but I wish I didn't have to...