Bearded men ahoy, share your advice..

Meef Chaloin · Post by **Meef Chaloin** » Fri Apr 11, 2008 6:42 pm

i have one whenever i can, cant really at the moment because of work though. i love em

sweetjesus · Post by **sweetjesus** » Fri Apr 11, 2008 6:43 pm

Meef Chaloin wrote:i have one whenever i can, cant really at the moment because of work though. i love em

what line of work are you in that you cant have a beard for?

doc holiday · Post by **doc holiday** » Fri Apr 11, 2008 6:43 pm

35 and I can't grow one

i hate shaving

8O · Post by 8O » Fri Apr 11, 2008 6:45 pm

sweetjesus wrote:okay im starting to scare people now..

Sweet! Like Jesus?

We demand photos!

Corn Swabler · Post by **Corn Swabler** » Fri Apr 11, 2008 6:59 pm

sweetjesus · Post by **sweetjesus** » Fri Apr 11, 2008 7:08 pm

8O wrote:
sweetjesus wrote:okay im starting to scare people now..
Sweet! Like Jesus?

We demand photos!

make some captions to go with my beard!!

Angstrom · Post by **Angstrom** » Fri Apr 11, 2008 7:31 pm

I knew that image reminded me of something,
uncanny resemblance!

actually it's kinda weird the background yellow is the same and even the crop angle. I demand that you start a band with a monk and a fishmonster and get up to all kinds of crazy escapades.

laird · Post by **laird** » Fri Apr 11, 2008 7:42 pm

forge · Post by **forge** » Fri Apr 11, 2008 11:25 pm

Angstrom wrote:I knew that image reminded me of something,
uncanny resemblance!

actually it's kinda weird the background yellow is the same and even the crop angle. I demand that you start a band with a monk and a fishmonster and get up to all kinds of crazy escapades.

weird - there's been a Monkey resurgence in my house, my son has been getting really into it and I've been really enjoying watching it again

the DVD has an 'unseen in UK' episode that was never dubbed - weird watching it with the real voices and reading subtitles, you can see how much the UK dubbers added their own input, the Japanese version, as you might expect seems to be a lot more brutal slapstick humour

Angstrom · Post by **Angstrom** » Fri Apr 11, 2008 11:41 pm

forge wrote: the DVD has an 'unseen in UK' episode that was never dubbed - weird watching it with the real voices and reading subtitles, you can see how much the UK dubbers added their own input, the Japanese version, as you might expect seems to be a lot more brutal slapstick humour

and of course the theme tune is a synth fest of analogue pitch bendyness. I have a version without the intro talk, and it's great.

hooray for the Japanese.
They must laugh themselves silly at the English language version
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3_IAf-qM9k

I very much doubt that it featured on US tv.

doc holiday · Post by **doc holiday** » Sat Apr 12, 2008 12:01 am

never heard of monkey over here

forge · Post by **forge** » Sat Apr 12, 2008 12:03 am

Angstrom wrote:
forge wrote: the DVD has an 'unseen in UK' episode that was never dubbed - weird watching it with the real voices and reading subtitles, you can see how much the UK dubbers added their own input, the Japanese version, as you might expect seems to be a lot more brutal slapstick humour
and of course the theme tune is a synth fest of analogue pitch bendyness. I have a version without the intro talk, and it's great.

hooray for the Japanese.
They must laugh themselves silly at the English language version
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3_IAf-qM9k

I very much doubt that it featured on US tv.

I really like the Uk version though - they have done a lot with the characters that I'm not sure was always there in the japanese version, but they definitely did a very good job of fitting it - I had no idea just how funny Sandy was until the other day - he's actually really dry and sarcastic - I would have missed it as a kid

the only thing I have always thought though is that the dubbing could have been construed as quite racist, but then when I was watching it the other day I was thinking they were actually probably quite reserved - I'm not sure they could have exactly dubbed it in their best RP BBC accents

I had a religious studies teacher in year 12 who was telling us about Monkey and how it was kind of a dig from Japanese Buddhists at the Chinese Buddhists and they were kind of mocking them a bit

it was a brilliant show though, one of the better ones of the time

Angstrom · Post by **Angstrom** » Sat Apr 12, 2008 12:13 am

forge wrote: I had a religious studies teacher in year 12 who was telling us about Monkey and how it was kind of a dig from Japanese Buddhists at the Chinese Buddhists and they were kind of mocking them a bit

That was a popular theory, but it is actually based on a Chinese book and it was filmed in China too (with Japanese actors and for Japanese telly of course) so I doubt the Chinese would smile on a piss-take. Especially back then.

The book (Journey to the West) is a bit of a classic I hear and both Chinese and Japanese TV occasionally do modern versions with varying levels of seriousness.

I think that many people greatly over-thought what was essentially just a daft TV show.

forge · Post by **forge** » Sat Apr 12, 2008 12:14 am

doc holiday wrote:never heard of monkey over here

shame - and unless you grew up with it it might never have the same kind of cult appeal - kind of like sesame st where you at first think it;s just a good kids show then as you get older realise just what sheer genius it was

forge · Post by **forge** » Sat Apr 12, 2008 12:20 am

Angstrom wrote:
forge wrote: I had a religious studies teacher in year 12 who was telling us about Monkey and how it was kind of a dig from Japanese Buddhists at the Chinese Buddhists and they were kind of mocking them a bit
That was a popular theory, but it is actually based on a Chinese book and it was filmed in China too (with Japanese actors and for Japanese telly of course) so I doubt the Chinese would smile on a piss-take. Especially back then.

The book (Journey to the West) is a bit of a classic I hear and both Chinese and Japanese TV occasionally do modern versions with varying levels of seriousness.

I think that many people greatly over-thought what was essentially just a daft TV show.

thing is there is definitely a strong Buddhist motivation behind it - there was once or twice watching it when I wondered if it was the equivalent of loony bin evangelical christian telly, but with the saving grace of being buddhist - but I also realised clearly that they had firmly in mind that it was ultimately a kids show, so yeah, probably over analysed by adults - i think the violent 'kung fu' like nature of it and the brutal comedy made a lot of people take it as more general, but I think in Japan kids telly is probably a lot more violent anyway