I think perhaps we are actually agreeing with differing words - we have laptops now and you can plug them into the living room stereo and things like Live are making it more possible to jam electronically, but given a chance I think most electronic musicians would still pick up a guitar, bongos or whatever if intending to have a jam - it's just more immediate and actually most likely more funAngstrom wrote:
sure, we make now make our mini symphonies, but that doesn't preclude having a drunken strum-along. The two things are not musically exclusive.
he he...well the danny boy comment was tongue in cheek, and I'm certainly not being elitist and saying "we are all now isolated digital beethovens too individually amazing to ever be sullied by the trashy ideas of others" but you have to admit that the world would be far duller if many of the greatest modern musicians hadn't worked their arses off to perfect their albums the way THEY liked it.Angstrom wrote: Now you made a bit of a straw man argument about "some pissed arsehole singing danny boy over the top" . That is fallacious because when a group of friends get together in the real world to sit around playing music - you don't invite a drunk tramp in too. You choose some friends or like minded people and have a fun time.
There is no reason that a digital version should be any different, open to a group of like-minded people. The idea that we are all now isolated digital beethovens too individually amazing to ever be sullied by the trashy ideas of others is a bit idealistic to say the least.
We are much more like the rowdy troubadours, full of a few too many beers and making a bit of a racket. Sure it might all be a bit more glossy - but a lot of it is just glossy racket.
it's fun to make a racket sometimes - but don't believe that a collection of VSTi makes it anything more than that
my exact point is that there is a time and place for both and they are not mutually exclusive - which is what you're saying too..I think...
but I am also saying that I cant really see electronic music being able to have this same immediacy or social interaction quality on a 'mainstream' scale - but maybe I'm wrong