Extreme long feature wishlist / making LIVE the ultimate
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Extreme long feature wishlist / making LIVE the ultimate
Hi to all LIVE fans,
as this post has gone upwards because of my last reply at the end, I edit this one with the following:
This list was made by me in July when I was new to Ableton LIVE and is ment to be a suggestion / comparision to other DAW functions I got used to using ProTools and Logic. Concerning the importance what aspects Abelton should care about in the future, see my post in the general section:
http://www.ableton.com/forum/viewtopic. ... 511#548511
original post:
I worked on this for the last hours and decided to put the pdf/doc on my homepage for download.
The list got too long to post it here and waste the place. I'm not sure if I would bother the community by posting this here directly...
So anyone who's interested is heartily invited and appreciated for taking a look into my personal feature wishlist...
PDF:
http://www.stefanjoachimmueller.de/info ... 20SM-3.pdf
Word Document:
http://www.stefanjoachimmueller.de/info ... t%20SM.doc
regards to all, any comments welcome
as this post has gone upwards because of my last reply at the end, I edit this one with the following:
This list was made by me in July when I was new to Ableton LIVE and is ment to be a suggestion / comparision to other DAW functions I got used to using ProTools and Logic. Concerning the importance what aspects Abelton should care about in the future, see my post in the general section:
http://www.ableton.com/forum/viewtopic. ... 511#548511
original post:
I worked on this for the last hours and decided to put the pdf/doc on my homepage for download.
The list got too long to post it here and waste the place. I'm not sure if I would bother the community by posting this here directly...
So anyone who's interested is heartily invited and appreciated for taking a look into my personal feature wishlist...
PDF:
http://www.stefanjoachimmueller.de/info ... 20SM-3.pdf
Word Document:
http://www.stefanjoachimmueller.de/info ... t%20SM.doc
regards to all, any comments welcome
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headlines of feature wishlist
Hi again,
I just decided to post just the headlines in here, anyone who wants them explained should download the whole document... Feedback appreciated.
A. Concerning global issues:
01. Displaying run-time / SMPTE
02. Assignable Keyboard Shortcuts
03. Storable view and zoom settings with assignable key commands
04. Loading new project in background while playing
05. Also import return tracks while dragging a project into an existing one...
06. Solo-safe feature for all tracks
07. Solo for grouped tracks
08. Deactivate "Solo" Button (key / midi assignable command)
09. Device select button (midi/key assignable)
10. Pre/post Sends for individual tracks
11. Other Grid values than just Beats&Bars...
12. OMF In- and Export
13. Hideable display of inserted devices for each track
14. Make selected clips more visible
15. Accelerating and improved scrolling while dragging clips towards arrangement/session view borders
16. Automatic safety project copies in background
17. "Copy imported audio to project folder" preference & renaming disk file feature (besides "crop")
18. Display Names of changed and renamed LIVE Plug-Ins in track view
19. View of midi mapped notes in traditional note order (not in alphabet order)
20. Fast-forward in Browser clip preview & waveform display in browser and "manage files-> view samples" window.
21. CPU peak level display...
B. Concerning "Session View":
01. Follow actions for scenes / additional scene parameters / "Scene View"
02. Let more than one scene play at once (optional by preference setting)
03. Group clips / tracks
04. Double click on clip to close detail clip view...
C. Concerning Clip View:
01. Make clips selectable by midi/key command
02. Cut clip in pieces at warp markers respectively grid values / "strip silence"
03. Midi/key assignment for individual defined clips
04. Midi assigned loop length value change should be dependent on clip quantize value
05. Clip nudge value dependent on clip quantize value (additional option) & nudge to set warp markers
06. "Play clip with scene" on/off feature
07. Quantize Midi values / force note length / force legato
08. More selection possibilities in Midi clip view ("Select notes on same relative position"...) etc.
09. Direct Value typing for warp BPM Value
10. "Follow Actions Time Control" to be optional independent of clip quantize setting... (prefs setting)
D. Concerning Arrangement View:
01. Creating new tracks while loop recording in arrangement view
02. Fade in / out - Crossfades in Audio Tracks
03. Display of Timeline in Clip View while in arrangement view
04. Changing clip length in Arrangement View should not change length of neighbouring clips until releasing mouse button.
05. Maximal clip zoom in Arrangement View with one key command
06. Key command to enlarge track view of selected track / make triangle button assignable
07. Relative grid mode in arrangement view (in addition to the absolute grid mode)
08. Lock clip position in arrangement view
09. Nudging clips by grid values in arrangement view
10. SMPTE offset
11. Scroll Option while dragging clips to Arrangement View
12. Forward - backwards / Fast forward - backwards key command and/or button at global control bar
13. Moveable selection in Arrangement View
I just decided to post just the headlines in here, anyone who wants them explained should download the whole document... Feedback appreciated.
A. Concerning global issues:
01. Displaying run-time / SMPTE
02. Assignable Keyboard Shortcuts
03. Storable view and zoom settings with assignable key commands
04. Loading new project in background while playing
05. Also import return tracks while dragging a project into an existing one...
06. Solo-safe feature for all tracks
07. Solo for grouped tracks
08. Deactivate "Solo" Button (key / midi assignable command)
09. Device select button (midi/key assignable)
10. Pre/post Sends for individual tracks
11. Other Grid values than just Beats&Bars...
12. OMF In- and Export
13. Hideable display of inserted devices for each track
14. Make selected clips more visible
15. Accelerating and improved scrolling while dragging clips towards arrangement/session view borders
16. Automatic safety project copies in background
17. "Copy imported audio to project folder" preference & renaming disk file feature (besides "crop")
18. Display Names of changed and renamed LIVE Plug-Ins in track view
19. View of midi mapped notes in traditional note order (not in alphabet order)
20. Fast-forward in Browser clip preview & waveform display in browser and "manage files-> view samples" window.
21. CPU peak level display...
B. Concerning "Session View":
01. Follow actions for scenes / additional scene parameters / "Scene View"
02. Let more than one scene play at once (optional by preference setting)
03. Group clips / tracks
04. Double click on clip to close detail clip view...
C. Concerning Clip View:
01. Make clips selectable by midi/key command
02. Cut clip in pieces at warp markers respectively grid values / "strip silence"
03. Midi/key assignment for individual defined clips
04. Midi assigned loop length value change should be dependent on clip quantize value
05. Clip nudge value dependent on clip quantize value (additional option) & nudge to set warp markers
06. "Play clip with scene" on/off feature
07. Quantize Midi values / force note length / force legato
08. More selection possibilities in Midi clip view ("Select notes on same relative position"...) etc.
09. Direct Value typing for warp BPM Value
10. "Follow Actions Time Control" to be optional independent of clip quantize setting... (prefs setting)
D. Concerning Arrangement View:
01. Creating new tracks while loop recording in arrangement view
02. Fade in / out - Crossfades in Audio Tracks
03. Display of Timeline in Clip View while in arrangement view
04. Changing clip length in Arrangement View should not change length of neighbouring clips until releasing mouse button.
05. Maximal clip zoom in Arrangement View with one key command
06. Key command to enlarge track view of selected track / make triangle button assignable
07. Relative grid mode in arrangement view (in addition to the absolute grid mode)
08. Lock clip position in arrangement view
09. Nudging clips by grid values in arrangement view
10. SMPTE offset
11. Scroll Option while dragging clips to Arrangement View
12. Forward - backwards / Fast forward - backwards key command and/or button at global control bar
13. Moveable selection in Arrangement View
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Hi forge, thanks again for your reply..
Yeah I know that some features could be achieved by using racks or also with other workarounds like using internal IAC and Midistroke...(on Mac). I can do nearly anything I want by now...
My post is more about getting rid of some complicated and time-stealing workarounds and expand LIVE with some elementary and easy accessible features, which might also be helpful to convince users of other DAWs that LIVE is indeed an alternative with a bigger variety of musical features than other DAW software...
But I think you know that already...
cu
stefan
PS: feature wishlist for devices and racks coming up soon...
Yeah I know that some features could be achieved by using racks or also with other workarounds like using internal IAC and Midistroke...(on Mac). I can do nearly anything I want by now...
My post is more about getting rid of some complicated and time-stealing workarounds and expand LIVE with some elementary and easy accessible features, which might also be helpful to convince users of other DAWs that LIVE is indeed an alternative with a bigger variety of musical features than other DAW software...
But I think you know that already...
cu
stefan
PS: feature wishlist for devices and racks coming up soon...
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in addition
Of course I know, that this list deals with mainly basic aspects coming up in comparision with other DAWs and is not bringing up much innovative features considering the current music software market...
But I am sure by implementing this basic fetaures the users could develop some innovative ideas and musical workflows out of them, like they already do with the given amazing features LIVE has...
I'm now working on devices & racks, will build some and let you know in 2 weeks about my wishlist for those...
Really innovative stuff and suggestions will come afterwards...
cheers
stefan
But I am sure by implementing this basic fetaures the users could develop some innovative ideas and musical workflows out of them, like they already do with the given amazing features LIVE has...
I'm now working on devices & racks, will build some and let you know in 2 weeks about my wishlist for those...
Really innovative stuff and suggestions will come afterwards...
cheers
stefan
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hi onslaught,
Thanks for having a look, but I knew about this miniature view. Perhaps this headline can be misunderstood, sorry...
What I meant and described further in the extended downloadable wishlist (first post) is the following:
"Just like for example the I-O setting display it would be nice for mixing to show up the used devices for each track to have them in view at once instead of choosing a track to see what's used for this one. Also with the option to drag and copy devices."
Would result in having below each track name slots with the inserted devices (hideable like all other mix displays, I/O, returns, sends, delay,etc...)
My complete post is more about whats missing in LIVE to give users coming from other DAWs nearly the same features they are used to, though LIVE offers more and other features that the others don't have and give LIVE his innovative standing. (...more impotant than imitating others I guess, but of course some basic features as described would be nice to have...)
cheers
stefan
Thanks for having a look, but I knew about this miniature view. Perhaps this headline can be misunderstood, sorry...
What I meant and described further in the extended downloadable wishlist (first post) is the following:
"Just like for example the I-O setting display it would be nice for mixing to show up the used devices for each track to have them in view at once instead of choosing a track to see what's used for this one. Also with the option to drag and copy devices."
Would result in having below each track name slots with the inserted devices (hideable like all other mix displays, I/O, returns, sends, delay,etc...)
My complete post is more about whats missing in LIVE to give users coming from other DAWs nearly the same features they are used to, though LIVE offers more and other features that the others don't have and give LIVE his innovative standing. (...more impotant than imitating others I guess, but of course some basic features as described would be nice to have...)
cheers
stefan
Macbook Pro 2.5 Ghz, Intel Core 2 Duo, 2GB RAM, LIVE 8.1, Novation SL37, APC40, M-Audio Firewire410, ProTools 8 LE, Reason 4, Waves Native Power Pack, Music Production Toolkit 2, Stylus RMX, NI Komplete&Kore
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If they implemented everything you asked for - would Live not become quite cluttered? Once you've got a feature/button etc. in a program, it's very hard to remove it because you'll have a whole load of people who'll shout (or maybe just a few). Logic has traditionally suffered a bit from this, because they have to cater for their previous users. Obviously this is a part of designing evolving software, but it can probably become quite limiting.
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Hi fatrabbit,
as I mentioned in my post concerning "My thoughts on LIve..." where you were linked from, I changed my mind a bit about what is more important. Making LIVE another DAW or dealing with what LIVE stands for... You know my opinion...
This post is more a result of a new LIVE user (which I was when I wrote this) who is likely to compare his new software with the ones he used before (Logic , ProTools)
Though some of these points in the list are really important and at least those that do not necessarily mean changing the architecture or implementing while different features should be remarked and sorted out by Ableton (e.g. scrolling..)
cheers and thanks for taking part,
stefan
as I mentioned in my post concerning "My thoughts on LIve..." where you were linked from, I changed my mind a bit about what is more important. Making LIVE another DAW or dealing with what LIVE stands for... You know my opinion...
This post is more a result of a new LIVE user (which I was when I wrote this) who is likely to compare his new software with the ones he used before (Logic , ProTools)
Though some of these points in the list are really important and at least those that do not necessarily mean changing the architecture or implementing while different features should be remarked and sorted out by Ableton (e.g. scrolling..)
cheers and thanks for taking part,
stefan
Macbook Pro 2.5 Ghz, Intel Core 2 Duo, 2GB RAM, LIVE 8.1, Novation SL37, APC40, M-Audio Firewire410, ProTools 8 LE, Reason 4, Waves Native Power Pack, Music Production Toolkit 2, Stylus RMX, NI Komplete&Kore
http://www.myspace.com/stefanhollaender
http://www.myspace.com/stefanhollaender