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Discuss music production with Ableton Live.
apalomba
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Post by apalomba » Thu May 24, 2007 4:28 pm

Stay focused gafferuk, don't feature creep slow you down.
Can't wait to try it!

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Post by gafferuk » Wed May 30, 2007 9:15 am

apalomba wrote:Stay focused gafferuk, don't feature creep slow you down.
Can't wait to try it!
I like to stay on top of my features, i don't add new until I have finished off the current features(within reason of course).
Im used to playing with 3D game engines with over half million lines of code, im at about fifty thousand, so im ok for now :D

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Post by gafferuk » Wed May 30, 2007 9:20 am

Im building a great new feature I think your all like: Cross-Fading Clip launch buttons!!
The idea is you can edit envelopes on each button just like ableton but the controls can be ANY control, track or return ect.
Some are positive envelopes and some are negative envelopes, then can cross fade the envelopes by draging the white bar's left or right. Simple but extremly effective.
I think the Ableton team should build a simular feature in to there product.
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Post by gafferuk » Wed May 30, 2007 9:22 am

Ive re-done my button graphics, giving it a metal pro look. I had to reduce the colours because it was looking like a Fisher-Price toy which did not reflect the code behind it.
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Post by gafferuk » Wed May 30, 2007 12:36 pm

Just had a brain wave, have 4 different sets of envelopes for each clip button and be able to switch between them. :D

Anyone got any other ideas?

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Post by Coupe70 » Wed May 30, 2007 12:42 pm

for me it seems like there are already more than enough features.
even more features would make it too hard to learn, like starting
with live 6 without having touched older versions.

give the people the opportunity to play with the existing features
and they will come up with lots of new ideas for the next version.
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Post by gafferuk » Wed May 30, 2007 12:48 pm

Coupe70 wrote:for me it seems like there are already more than enough features.
even more features would make it too hard to learn, like starting
with live 6 without having touched older versions.

give the people the opportunity to play with the existing features
and they will come up with lots of new ideas for the next version.
I fully understand you ive been using Ableton sinse version 3 and my friends are finding live 6 impossible to learn.

I just want to give as much power as I can for live playing, but understand i need to have a ballance of features against complicated usage.

Ill stop adding features for a while.

I will try and make my help file easy to unserstand.

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Post by gafferuk » Wed Jun 06, 2007 2:44 pm

Coupe70 wrote:for me it seems like there are already more than enough features.
even more features would make it too hard to learn, like starting
with live 6 without having touched older versions.

give the people the opportunity to play with the existing features
and they will come up with lots of new ideas for the next version.
Ive decided to go against your advice and include new features to make playing easyer.


Heres a video i made today, it goes a bit funny at the end because of my screen recording software but you get the point, it's only a sample, i know the sounds arnt that good but i have no time to do it right.

Every clip pad button is an XY-Controller. Containing 4 sets of envelopes, red, green, blue and yellow. Moving left or right changes the current showing envelope while up and down manipulates the other 3.
If you press and drag the play button part up or down and let go it cycles througth the 4 envelope sets.

Your notice I play with bass04 and bass06 a lot, what i am doing is dragging and bending the sounds and then when I let go I glides back with my new glide feature.
The hardware arrow key buttons and return button acts as glide controls for the envelopes amplitude.
Up: keeps the value at the current position.
Down: glides the effect back down to the original value atr a constant rate until end of envelope clip.
Left: glides at a rate of the envelope quantization.
Right: instantly sets the envelope amplitude at the end of the envelope clip.

Anyweays your see it's the easyest and most advanced way of playing live! :D
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Post by gafferuk » Fri Jun 15, 2007 12:46 pm

Image

I have finally gotten around to building sync feature and it only takes around a few seconds to transfer over 25,000 bits of data across like control names and values ect.

Ive brightened up my graphics which im very happy with.
Ill do another video in a few days because the othr video i posted is not good at all.

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Post by gafferuk » Wed Jun 20, 2007 11:15 am

Image
Ive resized all the controls to make the faders almost full size.

im trying to create a software midi driver for my application, do you know anything about this sort of stuff? if so check this newsgroup thread here:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/newsgroups/de ... 358f402924

I simply want to remove the virtual midi cables im using and provide a professional solution.

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Post by gafferuk » Wed Jun 27, 2007 8:30 am

I've finally ported my application to the latest Windows Mobile 5. Looking good.
Im also creating a network server system so can connect multiple computers together over a network, so for instance one PC could be playing Ableton while another doing the visuals ect.

Image

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Post by gafferuk » Wed Jul 04, 2007 10:07 am

Project Roadmap.

Im expanding my project. Ive got bored with the fact that my controller makes no sounds of it's own.

Im not happy with current VST technology so im creating my own plugin Music application.

The plugins will work both on the Desktop PC's and Pocket PC's so multiple people can operate the single desktop pc remotly or play while at work on your coffee breaks using just your pocket PC's then upload you track to your desktop when you get home.

As each Pocket PC has it's own sound card I thought about the idea of each person being able to preview there own tracks before sending it to the audiance.

EVEYTHING is going to be plugin based, so if for example you don't like the default mixer, just replace it with one that someone else has developed using my (SDK)software development kit.

My application will be closed source but you will get the FULL source code to the project so you can make any mods you like and submit them to be included in next version so everyone benefits.


If you have any other ideas then please see this KVR forum thread:
http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic ... 79#2608779

This Forum thread has now ended.

Sorry if any of you are expecting me to release my current project in the next few month, this is not going to happen now as technoloy advances.

Anyway's hope to see you all at the KVR Forum.

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Post by zappen » Wed Jul 04, 2007 12:08 pm

it's good but still vaporware , i guess someone else will come up with somethign similiar soon

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Post by Coupe70 » Wed Jul 04, 2007 1:35 pm

zappen wrote:it's good but still vaporware , i guess someone else will come up with somethign similiar soon
i really hope so !!
gafferuk, your idea is great, but i am tired of waiting for even
more features i don´t need and want. i just want a software
that i can use, not one that grows and grows and never gets
released. i liked the idea of a SIMPLE remote control for live.
so if anybody can do this - please do it !!!
i would be happy to assist (by testing)...
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Post by apalomba » Wed Jul 04, 2007 5:34 pm

I agree, the idea of a PDA midi controller is great. There is nothing like that
out there. I don't need PDA plugin sequencer, I already have GRIF. I guess
it is your project so you can do what ever you want. It is a shame though, I
was really looking forward to using you contoller app.

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