So I'm buying ms pinkyOne example of an application that was created using MsPinky's MPVT object is the product "Torq" from M-Audio. Another great example of a DJ-oriented application that features Ms Pinky's vinyl control is djDecks. To see how Ms Pinky's vinyl control can be used for the purposes of video scratching, check out Neuromixer and Grid2, both created using Max/MSP/Jitter.
TORQ IS OUT!
a little quote from the ms pinky website
djdecks is PC only though, I think.Nixon wrote:a little quote from the ms pinky website
So I'm buying ms pinkyOne example of an application that was created using MsPinky's MPVT object is the product "Torq" from M-Audio. Another great example of a DJ-oriented application that features Ms Pinky's vinyl control is djDecks. To see how Ms Pinky's vinyl control can be used for the purposes of video scratching, check out Neuromixer and Grid2, both created using Max/MSP/Jitter.
Still double checking on this one...FrancodeLeon88 wrote:
So, let me just clarify...is it true that you can NOT use vinyl control when Torq is in Rewire Slave Mode to Ableton?
As big as your harddrive can handle. No limit.FrancodeLeon88 wrote: Second, just in case I misunderstood something, for Torq's Sampler, what is the sample length limit for incoming recordings (such as a microphone source)?
Not sure I understand why you would want to have one sample assigned to two decks simultaneously, but Torq has 16 sample slots and each one can be assigned to either deck 1 or 2 via the QuickScratch buttons; each sample cell has two QuickScratch buttons so you can assign, for example, Sample 1 to QuickScratch 1, Sample 2 to QuickScratch 2, Sample 3 to QuickScratch 1 and so on, then, assign Deck 1 to QuickScratch 1 and Deck 2 to QuickScratch 2 and scratch away your samples!FrancodeLeon88 wrote: And third, like Serato or FS, can you then assign that newly created sample to both vinyl controlled decks simultaneously?
You can download the manual here:
http://www.m-audio.com/images/global/ma ... G_EN02.pdf
Also, if you haven't seen it, here is Chad, the Product Manager of Torq, demoing it:
http://www.gearwire.com/mov/MAudio_Torq.mov
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Actually, my bad... I just double checked and that seems to be the one limitation due to how rewire is implemented in general. So no scratching while rewired (I was mislead because in the video with Chad, he mentions towrads the end that once rewired you can "record in any of your own your scratchs", etc.)djadonis206 wrote:
please explain how to use control vinyl in Rewire mode
thanks
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Propellerheads unfortunately, it's a Rewire thing. The work around would be to have someone do up a Max/MSP thing to get this to happen... maybe the Ms Pinky people have a solution?djadonis206 wrote:weak
Well instead of focusing on the problem we need a solution
who would have to program their app to allow this to happen?
M-Audio?
Propellerheads (rewire)
or
Ableton?
curious
Oh, and incase anyone missed this link earlierin the thread, there is an on-going Torq discussion going on here:
http://www.prodjforums.com/forum/showth ... ge=5&pp=20
http://www.prodjforums.com/forum/showth ... ge=5&pp=20
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Having toyed with Torq I'd say the benefit is the audio interface
it's set up for digital dj action - you can use it with Ableton - run lines 1 and 2 out A and 3 and 4 out b and you're mixing LIVE
granted you can do this with any 4 out sound card - this one is just set up to make it easier - I like it
Torq the application is cool - never fooled with anything else so I'm limited even in my bias
but it works - after a couple tweaks I'm up and running, nicely
the program itself sounds really good (AND LOUD)
I think you have to buy some extras for PINKY (like preamps for your turntables)
I figured less clutter is worth the extra $50 dollars to get TORQ - I'm still in "learn to use" mode and I don't have a laptop (but will)
I say Torq
it's set up for digital dj action - you can use it with Ableton - run lines 1 and 2 out A and 3 and 4 out b and you're mixing LIVE
granted you can do this with any 4 out sound card - this one is just set up to make it easier - I like it
Torq the application is cool - never fooled with anything else so I'm limited even in my bias
but it works - after a couple tweaks I'm up and running, nicely
the program itself sounds really good (AND LOUD)
I think you have to buy some extras for PINKY (like preamps for your turntables)
I figured less clutter is worth the extra $50 dollars to get TORQ - I'm still in "learn to use" mode and I don't have a laptop (but will)
I say Torq
I am pretty sure that with Serato, in-order to properly calibrate it, I would need to spring for new decks as well. My decks are about 10 to 15 years old and I'm not able to adjust the height of the tone-arms. I remember seeing somehwhere on the SSL site, throuble shooting or set-up, that these adjustments were needed as part of a proper claibration. I will get new decks at some point but can't afford to spring for both serato and new Techniques at this point.Patch wrote:IS Serato not being discussed here purely because of the cost?
So.... as far as I go, Serato is out of my price range for the moment. But, $200-300 US is a nice price for what looks like a worthy alternative with Torq. And, form what I have read there is no claibration involved with Torq, plug and play.
Yes, you are right about the pre-amps. Good point about the clutter as well. My current work room is dirt small.djadonis206 wrote:I think you have to buy some extras for PINKY (like preamps for your turntables)
I figured less clutter is worth the extra $50 dollars to get TORQ - I'm still in "learn to use" mode and I don't have a laptop (but will)
I say Torq
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Competition is good!
Competition is good!
Check this out for kicks as well.
www.numark.com
It appears that it was just announced. Would like to see video of it in action, as I can’t use the demo on my current computer. Because of this, and what I have seen from Torq, I would have to say I am leaning in the direction of Torq if I go this direction.
Good times for DJ’s. Guessing that both of these will have controllers by Christmas.
What’s next? I can’t wait to see it.
Check this out for kicks as well.
www.numark.com
It appears that it was just announced. Would like to see video of it in action, as I can’t use the demo on my current computer. Because of this, and what I have seen from Torq, I would have to say I am leaning in the direction of Torq if I go this direction.
Good times for DJ’s. Guessing that both of these will have controllers by Christmas.
What’s next? I can’t wait to see it.
A little about myself in this thread after Sales Dude McBoob asked for more information after reading my signature at the time after I started a stupid thread: http://www.ableton.com/forum/viewtopic. ... ht=#295839
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