Integrated step sequenser
Integrated step sequenser
I would like to see a stepsequenser with accents function as in x0x step programming, in ableton 6.
Thats all folks
Thats all folks
Re: Integrated step sequenser
I'm down with that.lola wrote:I would like to see a stepsequenser with accents function as in x0x step programming, in ableton 6.
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well, i just spent a bunch of time looking for my old thread "moog series III style sequencer" but i'll just recreate the idea here.
Yeah, it would be great if live had a step sequencer plug. But it would be REALLY great if they went beyond a regular x0x style step sequencer and made one more like what you see on modular synths.
Specifically the thing i like about those step sequencers is the ability to change the length of each step to create odd swinging sequences. Obviously, i'd like it to be able to do regular synced step sequencing too, but that can be easily acheived anyway. (see machinate's brilliant step sequencer .als for instance)
theres all sorts of other great things about these types of sequencers too. Here, have a look at one:
http://www.synthesizers.com/q960.html
of course the ableton one could have more rows, built in quantize (for all valuse, not just time) and i dunno, whatever else we/they come up with.
.lm.
Yeah, it would be great if live had a step sequencer plug. But it would be REALLY great if they went beyond a regular x0x style step sequencer and made one more like what you see on modular synths.
Specifically the thing i like about those step sequencers is the ability to change the length of each step to create odd swinging sequences. Obviously, i'd like it to be able to do regular synced step sequencing too, but that can be easily acheived anyway. (see machinate's brilliant step sequencer .als for instance)
theres all sorts of other great things about these types of sequencers too. Here, have a look at one:
http://www.synthesizers.com/q960.html
of course the ableton one could have more rows, built in quantize (for all valuse, not just time) and i dunno, whatever else we/they come up with.
.lm.
TimeableFloat ???S?e?n?d?I?n?f?o
What Live should get is a step sequencing mode.
Step sequencing should just be another recording mode, you select your note lenght and start playing the notes/chords on your keyboard and they get entered in the pianoroll until you stop playing.
There are allready tons of vst that emulates the oldschool monophonic step sequencers, even free ones, but they don't increase your productivity, step recording mode allows you to enter sequences way faster and would be more valuable to have in Live 6 than just another on/of step sequencer imo, all the other sequencer programs have step mode and it's time that Live gets it, most other DAWs had that like 20 years ago.
I can upload a few pics from the one in sonar to show what I mean if anyones interested or don't know what it can do, it is sweet, and once you learn to use the pattern feature watch out, you'l be making arp sequences, straccato/trance chord patterns and things like drum patterns with blinding speed, to have something like that as a new recording mode in Live would be awesome, it's all I use Sonar for since Live covers the rest and I can't realy stand timeline recording only programs anymore.
Step sequencing should just be another recording mode, you select your note lenght and start playing the notes/chords on your keyboard and they get entered in the pianoroll until you stop playing.
There are allready tons of vst that emulates the oldschool monophonic step sequencers, even free ones, but they don't increase your productivity, step recording mode allows you to enter sequences way faster and would be more valuable to have in Live 6 than just another on/of step sequencer imo, all the other sequencer programs have step mode and it's time that Live gets it, most other DAWs had that like 20 years ago.
I can upload a few pics from the one in sonar to show what I mean if anyones interested or don't know what it can do, it is sweet, and once you learn to use the pattern feature watch out, you'l be making arp sequences, straccato/trance chord patterns and things like drum patterns with blinding speed, to have something like that as a new recording mode in Live would be awesome, it's all I use Sonar for since Live covers the rest and I can't realy stand timeline recording only programs anymore.
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oh, i'm familiar with step record mode.
I used to make all sorts of rushes and flutters with that back in the days of motu performer, (yeah man, not digital performer, just performer.) Not a bad thing to add, but not really at the top of my list. I find it just as easy to do that sort of stuff by clicking on the piano roll.
I actually don't know of ANY vst that emulates the timing change capability of a modular synth style sequencer. Please prove me wrong so i can buy it.
Actually, that might not be true, i think you can do stuff like that with numerology and probably reactor, but i'd really like something *simple* that does it.
here is an example of a sequence i made with the moog sequencer to show you what i'm talking about:
http://leisuremuffin.com/music/submarinemoogseq.mp3
feel me now?
.lm.
I used to make all sorts of rushes and flutters with that back in the days of motu performer, (yeah man, not digital performer, just performer.) Not a bad thing to add, but not really at the top of my list. I find it just as easy to do that sort of stuff by clicking on the piano roll.
I actually don't know of ANY vst that emulates the timing change capability of a modular synth style sequencer. Please prove me wrong so i can buy it.
Actually, that might not be true, i think you can do stuff like that with numerology and probably reactor, but i'd really like something *simple* that does it.
here is an example of a sequence i made with the moog sequencer to show you what i'm talking about:
http://leisuremuffin.com/music/submarinemoogseq.mp3
feel me now?
.lm.
TimeableFloat ???S?e?n?d?I?n?f?o
I fully concur, an ableton midi instrument step seq. is in order. I use FL Studio, and dig using it's step seq. to make beats, it would definitely be a useful thing to have right inside of live.
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lola wrote:@ leisuremuffin
The suupahdoopah thing about a xox type seq, is that it is so simple, i like to see simplicity.
yeah man, and i get you there.
no reason we can't have both of our ideas. I like to use xox style seqs too. Part of why i use µ-tonic so much. (sometimes i even use the midi out from the xox style seq on it.)
but i also think that if ableton does make an integrated step sequencer, it should (and will) be more than just an average step sequencer. Look at how they did the arp plug in.
.lm.
TimeableFloat ???S?e?n?d?I?n?f?o
Yea lets have bothleisuremuffin wrote:lola wrote:@ leisuremuffin
The suupahdoopah thing about a xox type seq, is that it is so simple, i like to see simplicity.
yeah man, and i get you there.
no reason we can't have both of our ideas. I like to use xox style seqs too.
.lm.
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