Scratch!
yummy!
yeah!i would dig that!
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BUMP!
Almost 4 years later:
-Faderfox DJ2 & DX2 ship with "Seek/Scratch" encoders
-Xone 3D has 2 jog wheels
-MCU has a jog wheel
-Behringer BCD2000 & others like the Hercules offer cheap dual-wheel setups
-Rane/Serato and NI are getting $$ I'd rather see going to Ableton
Where is the Ableton approach to this method of mixing/mangling tracks? Maybe the way others are doing it doesn't suit Live, but SOMETHING will.
I'm dying for a little more of a tactile vinyl/CDJ experience. Whether it just gives special effects or actually helps with nudging & beatmatching doesn't matter (though both are hoped for).
After 4 years, is this getting even anywhere near the top of the wishlist?
Almost 4 years later:
-Faderfox DJ2 & DX2 ship with "Seek/Scratch" encoders
-Xone 3D has 2 jog wheels
-MCU has a jog wheel
-Behringer BCD2000 & others like the Hercules offer cheap dual-wheel setups
-Rane/Serato and NI are getting $$ I'd rather see going to Ableton
Where is the Ableton approach to this method of mixing/mangling tracks? Maybe the way others are doing it doesn't suit Live, but SOMETHING will.
I'm dying for a little more of a tactile vinyl/CDJ experience. Whether it just gives special effects or actually helps with nudging & beatmatching doesn't matter (though both are hoped for).
After 4 years, is this getting even anywhere near the top of the wishlist?
A 'scrub/scratch' option would be so useful but in different ways I was thinking, mosly because different folks use Live in different ways.John Sweet wrote:BUMP!
I'm dying for a little more of a tactile vinyl/CDJ experience. Whether it just gives special effects or actually helps with nudging & beatmatching doesn't matter (though both are hoped for).
Live DJing - not what I do but can see this as vital and just plain cool.
Performance - the second face of live, and loads of creative possibilities and also a way to get things back in time if needed.
Recording - being able to scrub through arrangements / tracks / clips would make the current battle of navigating the arrange view multiple times easier. Once used in other programs you really miss it in Live.
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Count me in for a scratch function, long overdue methinks.
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I think that the playhead in general should be alot more controllable.
The start and loop points shouldn't be coupled to the playhead position. The "needle dropping" should be deterministic, not haphazard. (You can do the same thing twice and get a different result). The update of playhead position is too slow and unpredictable to be useful for any hardcore manipulation.
I think that if the playhead engine was made considerably more fluid and playable, then some kind of "scratching" functionality might emerge organically.
$0.02,
rs
The start and loop points shouldn't be coupled to the playhead position. The "needle dropping" should be deterministic, not haphazard. (You can do the same thing twice and get a different result). The update of playhead position is too slow and unpredictable to be useful for any hardcore manipulation.
I think that if the playhead engine was made considerably more fluid and playable, then some kind of "scratching" functionality might emerge organically.
$0.02,
rs
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vst plugins are the way to scratch. check devine machine, most of em cost 20 to 100 bucks but scratching your original material on the fly with a knob is rad ass.
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I hope I don't get into trouble with the mods for hammering this issue (if so guys send me a pm telling me slow down). But I'm trying to rally up support for vinyl control and scratching in the Torq/Ableton rewire mode.
If anyone's interested they can post up their support on the Torq website.
http://www.torq-dj.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=58
is the official forum, and wishlist topic concerning this. Please if you are interested in this feature, POST!!!
If anyone's interested they can post up their support on the Torq website.
http://www.torq-dj.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=58
is the official forum, and wishlist topic concerning this. Please if you are interested in this feature, POST!!!