Live 2.0.2 is released

Post by **Alex** » Sat Feb 15, 2003 3:12 am

Hi folks,

on the download page you can find the new Live version: Live 2.0.2
First we have to apologize for Live 2.0.1. We haven't realized how 'smelly' Live 2.0.1 was when we released it. We still haven't fixed all known bugs so you can expect a further update soon. But because of the frustration about Live 2.0.1 we decided to release a bugfix update already now. Special thanks to the users who helped me to get closer to the bugs.

Below you see a list of fixed bugs in Live 2.0.2. We hope the most you have are inside.

Record from 'Live In' with "Monitor through Live' off
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Platform: Live 2.0.1 on all platforms.
Bug: Record from 'Live In' with "Monitor through Live' flag from Audio preferences off doesn't work at all. Different symptoms depending on the operation system. OS X (crash), OS 9 (freeze), Win (freeze)
Fix: Fixed

Adding clip, start, undo
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Platform: Live 2.0.1 on all platforms
Bug: Adding clip, start & undo results in a crash. There are several other scenarios for this crash.
Fix: Fixed

Increasing warper noise
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Platform: Live 2.0.1 on all platforms
Bug: Some short loops play fine for a while but after a while they produce a ugly distorted sound
Fix: Fixed

Warper "Beats" mode
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Platform: Live 2.0.1 on all platforms
Bug: Under special circumstances some clips running in "Beats" mode sound different compared to version 1.5.2
Fix: Fixed

Syncing clips
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Platform: Live 2.0.1 on all platforms
Bug: Under special circumstances some clips are running out of phase
Fix: Fixed

Unwarped clips in arranger
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Platform: Live 2.0.1 on all platforms
Bug: Under special conditions the beginning of unwarped clips is not hearable
Fix: Fixed

Recording unwarped clips
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Platform: Live 2.0.1 on all platforms
Bug: Under special conditions, fired unwarped clips from Session are recorded not correctly in the Arranger
Fix: Fixed

XY Control for VST
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Platform: Live 2.0.1 on all platforms
Bug: The parameters of a VST plug assigned to the XY Control aren't remembered
Fix: Fixed

Loading a song with MIDI sync button ("Ext") on
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Platform: Live 2.0.1 on all platforms
Bug: Loading a song with MIDI sync button ("EXT") on doesn't activate MIDI sync
Fix: Fixed

MIDI/Key mapping for Metronome
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Platform: Live 2.0.1 on all platforms
Bug: MIDI/Key mapping for Metronome isn't saved in the document
Fix: Fixed

Input channel routing
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Platform: Live 2.0.1 on all platforms
Bug: Loading a song with an input routing from 'Live In' or any 'ReWire' source reroutes the input channel always to the first availabe input channel
Fix: Fixed

Follow Song flag
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Platform: Live 2.0.1 on all platforms
Bug: Any change of the arranger view size caused Follow flag to switch off
Fix: Fixed

Insert Silence
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Platform: Live 2.0.1 on all platforms
Bug: In arranger, sometimes after "Insert Silence" some unstretched clips are reduced in length
Fix: Fixed

Broken documents
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Platform: Live 2.0.1 on all platforms
Bug: Under rare conditions restored documents cannot be opened and a strange error message is visible.
Fix: Fixed

Reaktor VST doesn't sync to Live
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Platform: Live 2.0.1 on all platforms
Bug: Reaktor doesn't get the right Tempo from Live
Fix: Fixed

Selecting Sample Editor
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Platform: Live 2.0.1 on all OS X and OS 9
Bug: Not possible to select a sample editor in Live's preferences
Fix: Fixed

PFL doesn't work for Volume of -inf
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Platform: Live 2.0.1 on all platforms
Bug: In PFL mode, the signal of a track with a volume of -inf isn't routed to the Pre-Listen bus
Fix: Fixed

Screen resolution of 800x600
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Platform: Live 2.0.1 on all platforms
Bug: The transport isn't completely visible under screen resolution of 800x600
Fix: Fixed

General Improvements
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- Adding the bandpass in the AutoFilter effect device
- Better TAP Tempo
- Better document restoring
- Better MIDI clock
- Some corrections for the manual
- and some other small things (some of them are too embarrassing to report expicit here :)

regards,
Alex

fuentes925 · Post by **fuentes925** » Sat Feb 15, 2003 3:38 am

This is very good news...

Thank you Ableton.

datagroove · Post by **datagroove** » Sat Feb 15, 2003 4:51 am

ha ha 6.:00am on a saturday in Berlin and we get an update! love it.

datagroove

muser · Post by **muser** » Sat Feb 15, 2003 5:08 am

Hey guys, thank you for clearly working your butts off, we appreciate it. Even though not all the bugs are fixed, progress and communication are the key. Keep it coming!

datagroove wrote:ha ha 6.:00am on a saturday in Berlin

datagroove · Post by **datagroove** » Sat Feb 15, 2003 5:15 am

ha ha 6.:00am on a saturday in Berlin and we get an update! love it.

datagroove

tribalogical · Post by **tribalogical** » Sat Feb 15, 2003 6:13 am

Thank you Alex, and the rest of the team!

Two or three of those fixes are major for me. Even something as seemingly trivial as fixing the "Follow Flag" bug makes a huge difference in overall useability... one less "thing" to remember or think about... now I can relax more in Arrange Mode

Thanks again. THIS is how products should be made and supported!! Keep it up!

tlc

fuentes925 · Post by **fuentes925** » Sat Feb 15, 2003 9:19 am

I just upgraded to 2.02 and I still get clips that play out of sync in the session view. It only happens once in a while but this is a big problem for me, it causes me much worry every time I change a scene, because I don't know if it is all going to play in sync. Any body else still have this problem?

os · Post by os » Sat Feb 15, 2003 9:38 am

Thanks for the update guys, and thanks especially for letting us know in such detail what was fixed.

Maxim · Post by **Maxim** » Sat Feb 15, 2003 1:00 pm

yup. Thanks for the update.

One question: You say that "Midi clock has been improved". What exactly does that mean? Sync to external or better master clock or something else?

Mbazzy · Post by **Mbazzy** » Sat Feb 15, 2003 1:49 pm

Thanx a lot ...

kleine · Post by **kleine** » Sat Feb 15, 2003 3:10 pm

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For those of you who can´t launch Live 2.01/2.02 under MacOS 9.x:
Please make sure that you have the latest "CarbonLib" systemextension
installed. You can download this extension from the www.apple.com page.
If there are still problems; ->support@ableton.com
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datagroove · Post by **datagroove** » Sat Feb 15, 2003 11:31 pm

um... hate to say it but: I’ve done some testing and audio playback with certain styles of loops on my system causes more clicks and pops during playback then the older version did.

For instance with loops such as bass lines or any consistent ambient textures you can hear anomaly’s such as a click or pop easier…so I have been testing and doing so in all 4 loop modes… these audio files do not have any clitchs and they loop perfectly in a sample editor (such as peak or spark)

Within Live a glitchy pop can be head in some audio files -sometimes its consistent and sometimes not- but I am discovering they usually occur were a beat marker is.

It happens in ASIO or sound manager.
And..
once again these loop perfectly, (I create perfect loops for living)

so can you comment on this? I can send audio file if you’d like.

datagroove

Tibook 667- minimum extension set, 768 MB, testing with just one clip at a time

ASIO soundcard is a RME multiface at a 256 buffer

twelve · Post by **twelve** » Sun Feb 16, 2003 8:35 am

don't be embarassed about the smell. even my girlfriend, as beautiful as she is, sometimes gets the gas.

Gerhard · Post by **Gerhard** » Sun Feb 16, 2003 3:09 pm

datagroove wrote:Within Live a glitchy pop can be head in some audio files -sometimes its consistent and sometimes not- but I am discovering they usually occur were a beat marker is.

Hi,

I can hardly imagine the update would have incurred clicks, so let's find out exactly what this is about. To track this down, first please make sure the song loop is off, as the song loop jump back can cause clicks. If the problem persists, please try to create a minimal Live Set that exhibits the problem. Then, send this Live Set to alex@ableton.com. Thank you.

Gerhard / ableton

datagroove · Post by **datagroove** » Sun Feb 16, 2003 9:03 pm

My apologies- as it was pointed out having Live in song loop mode can cause clicks at the loop point- and because my default set had this feature on and looped at 2.0.0 -> I heard clicks in none transient oriented loops every 2 bars. Thank you Gerhard.

Glad to be proven wrong,
datagroove

Live 2.0.2 is released

Live 2.0.2 is released

Fantastic!

Syncing clips still not fixed in Live 2.02 as stated.

start up problems? CarbonLib!

extensive testing-audio clicks and pops...

Re: extensive testing-audio clicks and pops...

Re: extensive testing-audio clicks and pops...